hi, everyone, I use the Chirp! USA app and it's wonderful. Anyway, thought I 
would put my two cents in. Maybe with inflation it's five cents now. Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 19, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Donna Casteen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I haven't used the Chirpomatic app in a year. I tried using the app on an 
> iPhone 7. The recordings were very low in their volume, unless the bird was 
> very close, like in a tree just above my head. I hope this has been fixed.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> Debby,
>> 
>> Thanks for your review of this one.  I will give it a try.
>> 
>> The Bird Song ID app I have tried also lowers the volume as soon as you tap 
>> on the tab for recording bird songs, so yes, it would seem it may have 
>> something to do with the microphone.  Headphones do work fine with this.
>> 
>> Pam
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Debby 
>> [[email protected]]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:49 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In case anyone is interested, I did buy the ChirpOmAtic app. It is generally 
>> accessible with a couple of caveats. I did not try recording any birds 
>> because it is a hot muggy day around here.
>> 
>> Here are a couple of issues. Here is the biggest one. When you start the app 
>> Voiceover does not come out of the speaker. It is as though you are on a 
>> phone call. If you press the home button and come out of the app and go back 
>> in then voiceover comes out of the speaker. (I did not try with headphones 
>> to see what would happen.) I am thinking that this happens because the app 
>> wants to use the microphone, and so it puts any sound on the phone to the 
>> ear piece. This is fixable, but strange!
>> 
>> Most of the controls are fine, but some of them are labeled with words with 
>> no spaces. For instance on the first page there is a control that is labeled 
>> “taptorecord.”
>> 
>> The app does have a reference section where you can hear various birds. This 
>> section has a letter index and a search that is accessible and works. On the 
>> page where you hear the birds songs/calls there is a description of the 
>> sound just as there is in the “Chirp! Bird Song & calls USA” app. However, 
>> if you want to read the description of the song/call, you have to hunt a bit 
>> toward the bottom right of the screen.
>> 
>> Take care!
>> 
>> Debby
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Debby
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:14 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It looks as though the ChirpOmAtic and the one I suggested “Chirp USA” are 
>> from the same developer. By the way, I just looked in the app store, and the 
>> one I recommended is listed as “chirp! Bird songs & calls USA.” I looked up 
>> what I paid, and it was $3.95 in December, 2016. Because it is on my phone, 
>> I can’t tell if the price has changed.
>> 
>> I think I am going to get the “ChirpOMAtic” and try it out. Although birds 
>> aren’t really singing as much this time of year in my suburban environment. 
>> It will be interesting to see how it handles multiple birds.
>> 
>> Take care!
>> 
>> Debby
>> 
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:18 AM
>> To: viPhone 📩
>> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:28 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>> 
>> I wonder about these apps when you have multiple birds singing at the same 
>> time.
>> I’m not sure any of them could be all that accurate.
>> 
>> It’s too bad they don’t have a trial period.
>> Like you Bill, I would not buy an app without knowing it worked with 
>> VoiceOver at the very least.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill 
>> Gallik
>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:18 AM
>> To: viPhone 📩 <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ************
>> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.8) via Google Mail
>> I am likewise interested in an app that can identify birds by their calls 
>> with a reasonable degree of accuracy.  I live in northern Wisconsin and as I 
>> sit outside listening to the cacauphony of bird calls surrounding me I’d 
>> like to know which species are so garciously treating me to Nature’s 
>> symphony.
>> 
>> I went to the web site listed by Richard and found an app named ChirpOMatic 
>> but wonder if it is accessible.  It costs $3.95 and I am sufficiently cheap 
>> that I do not want to throw away that amount.
>> 
>> Can anybody tell me if ChirpOMatic is accessible to a totally blind person?
>> 
>> 
>> ************
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
>> - Contributor Unknown
>> P.S.
>> Wow, what an appropriate signature tag the system randomly chose for this 
>> message.  I swear, I had nothing to do with this signature other than adding 
>> to my library; I have the Mac randomly selecting signature tags!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are wanting an app that will tell you what the bird is from hearing 
>> the song, here is a review that you may find helpful.
>> https://lifehacker.com/shazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fshazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537&data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C92543840c8294daa424608d82c148533%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637307813939897703&sdata=CfwBCxLzap2BrgstRh1zCnbS64hImB5roS937HTE3XQ%3D&reserved=0>
>> 
>> If you want one to look up birds and hear what their song is like plus other 
>> information, check out the free Audubon app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
>> Debby
>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:04 PM
>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>> 
>> Hi Pam,
>> 
>> First thanks to James for taking the plunge in answering your email. Those 
>> 26 instances of your email scared me a bit.
>> 
>> Anyway, the bird song identification app I use is "Chirp USA." It has a ton 
>> of birds and includes bird songs as well as calls. Also, there are good 
>> descriptions of the songs/call and links to other information about the bird 
>> for the Cornell ornithology site and Wikipedia.
>> 
>> Take care!
>> 
>> Debby
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James English
>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:46 PM
>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent this 
>> 26 times.
>> 
>> - James
>> 
>> On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by
>> their song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one
>> I did find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it
>> will identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different 
>> times.
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> Pam
>> 
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