I would assume that the current version of Window Eyes has the same issue?
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From: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them
about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an
iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The
issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS
17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these
lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the
refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's
text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything,
either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently
received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to
install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and
tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the
screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He
said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything
had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they
programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine
in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had
changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the
underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him
it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7
were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1.
I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also
running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not
presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue
is with iTunes.
Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers
were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I
couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was
rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda
talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen
readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that
he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than
VoiceOver on Mac.
Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that
I spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be
really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes
12 could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a
useful dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft.
Sorry if any of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and
I'm not propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot
any of it.
Thanks,
Ari
On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne <[email protected]> wrote:
Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on
Applevis?
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to
purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house.
----- Original Message ----- From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the
originals?
Carol P - UK
On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you
to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
----- Original Message ----- From: "denise avant"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows
Hello everyone,
Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for
some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in
windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what
was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the
need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time
to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us
simply connected our cables to our computers to download
I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and
other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes
in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA
isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts
out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge
difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty
major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the
information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it
can be.
The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site
is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a
screenreader.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows
Denise,
If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest
you contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for
windows
I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of denise avant
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it
is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from
my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version
of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the
settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you
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