Apple never admits its responsibilities ...
The fault is always of others ...
Everyone knows that this accessibility issue in Itunes on windows is the
responsibility of Apple ...
Steve Jobs, we miss you.
Tim Cook, sucks.
cheers.
Às 16:51 de 22/11/2016, [email protected] escreveu:
I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them
about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an
iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The issue
is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS 17, and
even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these lists. I
haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the refresh
screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's text and
object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, either. The
reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently received my SMA
update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to install it. I'll report
back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and tried the screen refresh
command. By the way, I did all the tests of the screen readers mentioned above
when the rep was on the phone with me. He said that the issue was with
Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had changed in the latest
versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they programed those lists (after
all, the lists of the column browser work fine in the main music library) and
he said that as far as he knew, nothing had changed except the way things were
arranged in the program, not the underlying structure of the way things were
made in the program,. I told him it'd be interesting to see if blind users of
the latest iTunes and Windows 7 were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine
is running Windows 8 or 8.1. I'll have to check if she's having the same issues
I'm having. She's also running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a
Microsoft issues with not presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen
readers' or if the issue is with iTunes.
Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers were rather
limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I couldn't let that
slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was rather surprised. I wonder if
that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda talking. Either way, he needed to know
that not only were Windows screen readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of
two of them, so that he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better
than VoiceOver on Mac.
Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I
spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be
really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes 12
could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a useful
dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft. Sorry if any
of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and I'm not
propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot any of it.
Thanks,
Ari
On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne <[email protected]> wrote:
Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis?
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to
purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house.
----- Original Message ----- From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals?
Carol P - UK
On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy
music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc.
----- Original Message ----- From: "denise avant" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hello everyone,
Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of
the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten
worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using
iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone
and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us
upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to
download
I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other
material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I
guess not. Thanks for all your help.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't
doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there
which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a
feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that
companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do
whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be.
The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more
or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Denise,
If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you
contact Freedom Scientific on this one.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
denise avant
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is
possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s
plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also
wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it
with JAWS better? Thank you
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