We are all entitled to our opinions and what we think. And I agree that we need to be careful what we write when we write it. But I think we have beaten this issue to death. It doesn't matter whether you support the resolution or not, it was written read and passed. You can support it or not, that is fine, you can have an Apple product or not, that is also fine. But I think we have beating this to death, and I am sick of reading emails about it. Please let it rest! Thank you, Dacia
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Mário Navarro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > david, be careful what you write ... > it's just a advice ... > > > Às 17:46 de 25/08/2016, Dave Mitchel escreveu: >> you have no idea what others have done for themselves and for the blind >> community. stop your gushing and learn when it is best to keep your mouth >> shut. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Mário Navarro >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:08 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""] >> >> >> >> >> you are of those only has intelligence to criticize what others do for >> you ... >> You should criticize less and work more for the cause of the blind and >> accessibility. >> instead, you are those who are always waiting for others to do for you. >> NFB never done anything for you? >> read this and learn. >> >> https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions >> >> Às 16:46 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu: >>> Two years in a row, and if he has had resolutions which specifically called >>> out Apple. At the first of those conventions, they were calling Google and >>> accessibility champion. Why doesn't NFB spend equal time on other >>> companies, especially google, which is still behind Apple and someways, but >>> they call them a champion? I say as I have said before and should probably >>> stop saying, follow the money. Google sponsor their convention as a >>> champion. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Dacia Cole <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016 >>>> convention. As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion >>>> about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love >>>> what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement. >>>> >>>> https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> Dacia >>>> >>>>> On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I have >>>>> that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is >>>>> more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the >>>>> entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of >>>>> the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and >>>>> publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone heard. >>>>> For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed so >>>>> I can make up my own mind. >>>>> >>>>>> On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote: >>>>>> I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB >>>>>> convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate prioritization to >>>>>> accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass despite >>>>>> far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant surprise >>>>>> in iOS 9.3.4. >>>>>> >>>>>> I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse who is >>>>>> an >>>>>> avowed Apple basher. >>>>>> >>>>>> I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without any >>>>>> merit >>>>>> whatsoever. It certainly causes me to have very little regard for NFB >>>>>> and >>>>>> that organization’s leadership. >>>>>> >>>>>> This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where the >>>>>> object of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming grounds >>>>>> (usually a snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the object >>>>>> meant that once you achieved the highest point all other gamers were >>>>>> determined to knock you down in the belief that they would then occupy >>>>>> that high point. Since it’s obvious to me that neither NFB nor the author >>>>>> of that article would ever possibly occupy the “high ground” on this >>>>>> particular snow bank, I have to wonder just who is fostering all this >>>>>> “Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder! >>>>>> **************** >>>>>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland >>>>>> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty >>>>>> sure they are going to have some pretty annoying virtues." >>>>>> - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)-- >>>>> -- >>>>> Christopher (CJ) >>>>> chaltain at Gmail >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if >>>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>>>> or >>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>>>> you can reach Cara at [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>>> you can reach Cara at [email protected] >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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