While I haven't heard about the mentioned resolution, I have had personal 
experience with NFB personnel at various levels having an elitist attitude.  I 
have also had very pleasant contact with some of their staff.  Most groups 
contain a mix of personalities.  I think NFB feels the need to be more 
assertive than larger organizations just to be noticed and to accomplish much 
of what they do.  I have never been a member and at my age doubt I will join 
any of the organizations at this point.  That doesn't mean I don't support many 
things they are involved in.

Apple has admitted a problem in9.3.4 that has more impact on us than on the 
average user.  They also appear to have no intent to solve the problem, 
preferring to wait for version 10.  Unfortunately, that won't help those of 
with iPhone 4s.

While there are many features on the iPhone that help us, most are developed 
for the less technologically inclined and we get to go along for the ride.  
Apple has made numerous statements implying that what they do is for the 
general user and not as an aid to us.  They do provide features that allow us 
to do more with the phones.  Also features that assist people with other 
difficulties.  But Apple also says that software developers should take 
responsibility for making their programs more blind friendly and are 
responsible for fixing problems Apple may cause for their programs by making 
changes to the IOS.

It may just be that MicroSoft has far fewer developers to coordinate with and 
their longer development cycle between OS releases allows for more 
communication.

I'm not happy but also not particularly upset by the lack of support for my 4s. 
 Android devices don't seem to be supported as long as iPhones are.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I have that 
they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is more the 
view of the individual making this claim than it is of the entire NFB 
organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of the statements and 
resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and publiching an opinion like 
this just based on something someone heard. 
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed so I can 
make up my own mind.

On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
> I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB 
> convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate prioritization to 
> accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass despite far 
> more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies.
>
> Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant surprise in 
> iOS 9.3.4.
>
> I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse who is an 
> avowed Apple basher.
>
> I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without any merit 
> whatsoever.  It certainly causes me to have very little regard for NFB and 
> that organization’s leadership.
>
> This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where the object 
> of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming grounds (usually a 
> snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the object meant that once 
> you achieved the highest point all other gamers were determined to knock you 
> down in the belief that they would then occupy that high point. Since it’s 
> obvious to me that neither NFB nor the author of that article would ever 
> possibly occupy  the “high ground” on this particular snow bank, I have to 
> wonder just who is fostering all this “Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder!
> ****************
> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
> - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)--
>

--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

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