Hi Richard.
thanks for this.
now for you Jonathan Mosen.
thank you, thank you, thank you, my dear friend.
I have always admired you, and I will admire you as long you are fair
and honest.
you were perfect in your analysis on the resolution of NFB, and the
defense of all of us.
your words can not be misinterpreted by anyone, which were written by a
very intelligent man and very experienced in the world of blindness ...
You are the example that all blind we must follow and respect.
thank you dear friend for everything you do for us.
long life to Jonathan Mosen.
cheers.
Às 15:05 de 25/08/2016, Richard Turner escreveu:
Below is a link to Jonathan Mosen's blog where he quotes the entire resolution.
I suggest before any more comments are made, people read the entire resolution.
http://mosen.org/that-nfb-resolution/
Richard
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Tony
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]
While I haven't heard about the mentioned resolution, I have had personal
experience with NFB personnel at various levels having an elitist attitude. I
have also had very pleasant contact with some of their staff. Most groups
contain a mix of personalities. I think NFB feels the need to be more
assertive than larger organizations just to be noticed and to accomplish much
of what they do. I have never been a member and at my age doubt I will join
any of the organizations at this point. That doesn't mean I don't support many
things they are involved in.
Apple has admitted a problem in9.3.4 that has more impact on us than on the
average user. They also appear to have no intent to solve the problem,
preferring to wait for version 10. Unfortunately, that won't help those of
with iPhone 4s.
While there are many features on the iPhone that help us, most are developed
for the less technologically inclined and we get to go along for the ride.
Apple has made numerous statements implying that what they do is for the
general user and not as an aid to us. They do provide features that allow us
to do more with the phones. Also features that assist people with other
difficulties. But Apple also says that software developers should take
responsibility for making their programs more blind friendly and are
responsible for fixing problems Apple may cause for their programs by making
changes to the IOS.
It may just be that MicroSoft has far fewer developers to coordinate with and
their longer development cycle between OS releases allows for more
communication.
I'm not happy but also not particularly upset by the lack of support for my 4s.
Android devices don't seem to be supported as long as iPhones are.
Tony
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]
More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I have that
they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is more the
view of the individual making this claim than it is of the entire NFB
organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of the statements and
resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and publiching an opinion like
this just based on something someone heard.
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed so I can
make up my own mind.
On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB convention
singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate prioritization to accessibility
while giving other tech companies a complete pass despite far more egregious
non-concert on the part of those other companies.
Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant surprise in
iOS 9.3.4.
I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse who is an
avowed Apple basher.
I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without any merit
whatsoever. It certainly causes me to have very little regard for NFB and that
organization’s leadership.
This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” where the object
of the game is to occupy the highest point on the gaming grounds (usually a
snow bank here in the upper Midwest). That being the object meant that once you
achieved the highest point all other gamers were determined to knock you down
in the belief that they would then occupy that high point. Since it’s obvious
to me that neither NFB nor the author of that article would ever possibly
occupy the “high ground” on this particular snow bank, I have to wonder just
who is fostering all this “Apple bashing?” Makes me wonder!
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