Somebody said to put your elbows on the desk and
your hands up straight, hold the phone in your hand and take the picture.
At 07:19 AM 7/2/2016, you wrote:
I have a standscan or what they are called but
i'd rather try doing it free hand since there's
no room for a stand at the desk where i sit.
Thanks for the info
/Krister
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2 juli 2016 kl. 14:13 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via
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Krista,
Did you ever get a stand to use with the OCR
apps? I know this isn't the same as taking a
picture on the fly, and I would be very happy
to try again explaining how I do that. but a
stand is a surefire way of getting good results.
Krista, when you say you never got any help
from the list, I have to say that I know I have
exchanged many emails with you in the past on
this subject. so too have others. I do know
that for many people using the camera with the
phone is a difficult one. however, I could not
agree that it is impossible for people who
don't see it all because many of us do you have
success. I am sure we would all share out tips
and tricks with you. but, from personal
experience, having someone with you who can see
what you are doing is a very good way to get
started. also, when I first started out with
Prismo, I hat to practice like mad before it
worked for me. perhaps, this is why the KNFB
reader just worked out of the box in my case.
feel free to ask for ideas,
Sandy
sent from the dark side of the moon
On 2 Jul 2016, at 12:17, Krister Ekstrom
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
How nice that people are getting such splended
results with the knfv reader. I have to aggree
with Gordan though. I don't know what the hell
i do wrong vut for me the knfv reader just
don't work period. I have asked on this list
and on Applevis for help but haven't gotten
any so now i rely entirely on sighted help for reading text.
/Krister
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2 juli 2016 kl. 11:49 skrev 'Sandratomkins'
via VIPhone <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>:
Hi Gordon,
I would like to add my voice to Anne's
here! I think it was both she and I who
first championed the use of Prizmo, some
years back, using the old 4 phone!!
Certainly, at first it was a challenge, but
we did get some results which would, at the
very least, give one a good over-view of
what was on the paper. When the KNFB app
came out, or rather, when the hype leading
up to its coming out, was at its hottest and
they said "we won't be charging a lot for
it", only to then announce that it would
cost a wacking 100 Dollars, I decided I
would never buy it, seeing it as one more
example of the "rip-off" of the adaptive
market. However, within a day or so of its
appearing on the app store, I read sufch
glowing reports of the app that I swallowed
my pride and bought it. I have found it to
be truly liberating! True, in those days I
could see enough to tell if the targeted
sheet was roughly on the screen, which
helped emensely! but now, and for the last 2
years, I have had no sight at all, not even
light, which used to be so useful in gaging
the right ambience for taking shots, I am
within 5 percent of my earlier success.
I take shots, on the fly, such as in
restaurants, from a sitting position, just
raising one hand, not making any special
effort, (not choosing to make too much of an
exhibition of myself) of menus and have
splendid success! I always am the one to
check the post, before my other half, this
used to drive him mad when I was using
Prizmo, because it took quite a while to get
results, but now, the the KNFB app, I am as
quick as him putting on his reading glasses!
Once the envelope is opened, KNFB is faster
than he is at reading it for me (and often more accurate!!)
I do agree with Anne, it may well help
some of us, who have seen before, having an
instinctive awareness of the requirements of
the camera, but this isn't true of everyone,
people, here on this list, have achieved equal results, having never seen!
Finally, for those who just have
disappointing results, I wish I could give
them some one to one tips, but I think it
might be necessary to be actually present.
Because, I reckon there are tricks a methods
which one can follow and which don't need
judgement or too much spacial awareness.
Just my twopence worth.
Sandy.
sent from the dark side of the moon
On 2 Jul 2016, at 08:20, Anne Robertson
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon, I have to disagree with you. For
several years now, I have had very good
results freehand first with Prizmo and now
with KNFBReader and I’m totally blind. I
think what makes the difference is whether
we have good spacial awareness or not. I was
able to see perfectly as a young child, and
although I’ve seen nothing at all for
around 55 years, my visual memory is good.
This helps me understand how to use apps with the camera.
Cheers,
Anne
On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:02, Gordan Radić
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Hi!
Whatever people are saying, I never
believed in ferrytales. Blind people
acurately scanning text documents on the fly is just a ferrytale to me.
I managed to get some decent results with
KNFB Reader and Textgrabber but those were
third or fourth shots in both apps. Giving
hundreed bucks for KNFB Reader just to get
some partial results is too much for me;
fortunately, Textgrabber went free and now
has in-app purchases for translations.
Without a decent phone stand such as Fopydo
or something else there's no purpose in
acquiring OCR apps and that's my humble opinion.
S poštovanjem
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1.7.2016. u 20:43, Grant je napisao/la:
Hi Joe, unfortunately, I couldn’t get
Amedia to work reliably. Occasionally,
when my phone’s camera was pointed at a
printed page, one or two partial lines of
text would be read aloud, generally in
incomplete form. I sought sighted
assistance to make sure that I was in fact
aligning the camera and the document
correctly and was told that the image was
in fact being displayed on the screen. I
also tried Amedia and KNFB Reader side by
side with two documents, again with
sighted assistance,and KNFB performed OCR
correctly whereas Amedia only read a
couple lines of garbled text. Like you, I
have some trouble with KNFB Reader also,
but in my case I know that’s because I
have difficulty aligning the camera with
the page perfectly. I don’t think
there’s any question that you’ll get
better results with KNFB Reader though.
For live text recognition, Talking Goggles
does a reasonable enough job so at least
you’ll know what document you’re
holding. It requires an internet
connection to work, but there’s a free, ad-supported version.
I accessed my receipt for Amedia Live
Reader from the iTunes Store and reported
that the app wasn’t functioning for me, but I wasn’t offered a refund.
Hope this helps,
Grant
On Friday July 1, 2016, at 8:12:38 AM,
Joe <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, what have people's experience been with Amedia Live Reader? The
real-time reading function sounds
intriguing, but the price tag gives one
pause. I don't mind the investment though if people can show it's an
effective app. I'm an idiot and cannot
seem to make the KNFB Reader app work
wel for me, and yeah, I fully admit this
could just be user error. Thanks
for your thoughts in advance.
Joe
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