I have a standscan or what they are called but i'd rather try doing it free hand since there's no room for a stand at the desk where i sit. Thanks for the info /Krister
Skickat från min iPhone > 2 juli 2016 kl. 14:13 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone > <[email protected]>: > > Krista, > Did you ever get a stand to use with the OCR apps? I know this isn't the same > as taking a picture on the fly, and I would be very happy to try again > explaining how I do that. but a stand is a surefire way of getting good > results. > > Krista, when you say you never got any help from the list, I have to say that > I know I have exchanged many emails with you in the past on this subject. so > too have others. I do know that for many people using the camera with the > phone is a difficult one. however, I could not agree that it is impossible > for people who don't see it all because many of us do you have success. I am > sure we would all share out tips and tricks with you. but, from personal > experience, having someone with you who can see what you are doing is a very > good way to get started. also, when I first started out with Prismo, I hat to > practice like mad before it worked for me. perhaps, this is why the KNFB > reader just worked out of the box in my case. > > feel free to ask for ideas, > Sandy > > sent from the dark side of the moon > >> On 2 Jul 2016, at 12:17, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> How nice that people are getting such splended results with the knfv reader. >> I have to aggree with Gordan though. I don't know what the hell i do wrong >> vut for me the knfv reader just don't work period. I have asked on this list >> and on Applevis for help but haven't gotten any so now i rely entirely on >> sighted help for reading text. >> /Krister >> >> >> Skickat från min iPhone >> >>> 2 juli 2016 kl. 11:49 skrev 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone >>> <[email protected]>: >>> >>> Hi Gordon, >>> >>> I would like to add my voice to Anne's here! I think it was both she >>> and I who first championed the use of Prizmo, some years back, using the >>> old 4 phone!! Certainly, at first it was a challenge, but we did get some >>> results which would, at the very least, give one a good over-view of what >>> was on the paper. When the KNFB app came out, or rather, when the hype >>> leading up to its coming out, was at its hottest and they said "we won't be >>> charging a lot for it", only to then announce that it would cost a wacking >>> 100 Dollars, I decided I would never buy it, seeing it as one more example >>> of the "rip-off" of the adaptive market. However, within a day or so of its >>> appearing on the app store, I read sufch glowing reports of the app that I >>> swallowed my pride and bought it. I have found it to be truly liberating! >>> True, in those days I could see enough to tell if the targeted sheet was >>> roughly on the screen, which helped emensely! but now, and for the last 2 >>> years, I have had no sight at all, not even light, which used to be so >>> useful in gaging the right ambience for taking shots, I am within 5 percent >>> of my earlier success. >>> >>> I take shots, on the fly, such as in restaurants, from a sitting >>> position, just raising one hand, not making any special effort, (not >>> choosing to make too much of an exhibition of myself) of menus and have >>> splendid success! I always am the one to check the post, before my other >>> half, this used to drive him mad when I was using Prizmo, because it took >>> quite a while to get results, but now, the the KNFB app, I am as quick as >>> him putting on his reading glasses! Once the envelope is opened, KNFB is >>> faster than he is at reading it for me (and often more accurate!!) >>> >>> I do agree with Anne, it may well help some of us, who have seen >>> before, having an instinctive awareness of the requirements of the camera, >>> but this isn't true of everyone, people, here on this list, have achieved >>> equal results, having never seen! >>> >>> Finally, for those who just have disappointing results, I wish I could >>> give them some one to one tips, but I think it might be necessary to be >>> actually present. Because, I reckon there are tricks a methods which one >>> can follow and which don't need judgement or too much spacial awareness. >>> >>> Just my twopence worth. >>> >>> Sandy. >>> >>> sent from the dark side of the moon >>> >>>> On 2 Jul 2016, at 08:20, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Gordon, I have to disagree with you. For several years now, I have had >>>> very good results freehand first with Prizmo and now with KNFBReader and >>>> I’m totally blind. I think what makes the difference is whether we have >>>> good spacial awareness or not. I was able to see perfectly as a young >>>> child, and although I’ve seen nothing at all for around 55 years, my >>>> visual memory is good. This helps me understand how to use apps with the >>>> camera. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:02, Gordan Radić <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> Whatever people are saying, I never believed in ferrytales. Blind people >>>>> acurately scanning text documents on the fly is just a ferrytale to me. >>>>> I managed to get some decent results with KNFB Reader and Textgrabber but >>>>> those were third or fourth shots in both apps. Giving hundreed bucks for >>>>> KNFB Reader just to get some partial results is too much for me; >>>>> fortunately, Textgrabber went free and now has in-app purchases for >>>>> translations. >>>>> Without a decent phone stand such as Fopydo or something else there's no >>>>> purpose in acquiring OCR apps and that's my humble opinion. >>>>> >>>>> S poštovanjem >>>>> Gordan Radić >>>>> >>>>> <nemoviz_animated.gif> >>>>> <email.png> <facebook.png> <twitter.png> >>>>> 1.7.2016. u 20:43, Grant je napisao/la: >>>>>> Hi Joe, unfortunately, I couldn’t get Amedia to work reliably. >>>>>> Occasionally, when my phone’s camera was pointed at a printed page, one >>>>>> or two partial lines of text would be read aloud, generally in >>>>>> incomplete form. I sought sighted assistance to make sure that I was in >>>>>> fact aligning the camera and the document correctly and was told that >>>>>> the image was in fact being displayed on the screen. I also tried Amedia >>>>>> and KNFB Reader side by side with two documents, again with sighted >>>>>> assistance,and KNFB performed OCR correctly whereas Amedia only read a >>>>>> couple lines of garbled text. Like you, I have some trouble with KNFB >>>>>> Reader also, but in my case I know that’s because I have difficulty >>>>>> aligning the camera with the page perfectly. I don’t think there’s any >>>>>> question that you’ll get better results with KNFB Reader though. For >>>>>> live text recognition, Talking Goggles does a reasonable enough job so >>>>>> at least you’ll know what document you’re holding. It requires an >>>>>> internet connection to work, but there’s a free, ad-supported version. >>>>>> >>>>>> I accessed my receipt for Amedia Live Reader from the iTunes Store and >>>>>> reported that the app wasn’t functioning for me, but I wasn’t offered a >>>>>> refund. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>>> >>>>>> Grant >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday July 1, 2016, at 8:12:38 AM, Joe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, what have people's experience been with Amedia Live >>>>>>> Reader? The >>>>>>> real-time reading function sounds intriguing, but the price tag gives >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> pause. 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