Hi Florian,

The device arguments are "clock_source" and "time_source".  I noticed in
your command you had them as "clock_src" and "time_src".  That may be the
source of the problem.

Regards,
Michael

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:33 AM Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users <
usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote:

> Dear Nate,
>
> no it says something like this is not supported with the N310 and I should
> pass it using the args options. Sorry, I don't have access to the N310
> right now, so I can't give you the exact message, but I have tried that.
>
> Florian.
> On 10/12/2018 19:00, Nate Temple wrote:
>
> Hi Florian,
>
> If you pass the arg  "--ref external" to tx_waveforms, does it resolve
> this frequency offset?
>
>
> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/master/host/examples/tx_waveforms.cpp#L62
>
> Regards,
> Nate Temple
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 12:22 AM Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users <
> usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> I have measured this with a spectrum analyzer simply by setting markers
>> to the peak of the sinusoid (one marker per measured USRP) and then taking
>> the delta.
>>
>> Could it be that the USRP is ignoring the external reference when used
>> alone? Remember, I am doing the test with one USRP at a time, as the test
>> using multiple USRP simultaneously does not work.
>>
>> Florian.
>> On 06/12/2018 00:29, Marcus Müller wrote:
>>
>> oh! That means 341 ppb frequency error, which *really* shouldn't be
>> happening.
>>
>> I'd like to get some statistics of that error, how are you measuring
>> it?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Marcus
>>
>> On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:55 +0100, Florian Kaltenberger wrote:
>>
>> Sorry typo. I did use a frequency of 3.51GHz.
>>
>>
>> On 5 Dec 2018, at 12:54, Marcus Müller <marcus.muel...@ettus.com> 
>> <marcus.muel...@ettus.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Florian,
>>
>> trying to get my head to understand the order of problems here:
>> Could you try to use a higher frequency (say, --freq 2e9 instead of
>> 3.5e6)?
>> I'd thing 3.51 MHz is out of range for the N310, anyway?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Marcus
>>
>> On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:49 +0100, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-
>> users
>> wrote:
>>
>> So I can confirm that there is a frequency offset between the two
>> USRP N310s when using only an octoclock (10MHz + PPS) to
>> synchronize.
>> I have measured with the tx_waveforms program
>> ./tx_waveforms --args
>> "addr=192.168.x.2,time_src=external,clock_src=external,master_clo
>> ck_r
>> ate=122.88e6" --rate 122.88e6 --freq 3.51e6 --wave-type SINE --
>> wave-
>> freq 10e6 --gain 100
>> on the first USRP N310 (x=10) and then on the other (x=20). There
>> is
>> an offset of 1200Hz between the peaks of the sinusoids between
>> the
>> two measurements.
>> Using an external LO didn't change anything either. Unless I need
>> to
>> provide any other arguments in that case?
>> I also tried to do a test where I use both USRPs simultaneously
>> ./tx_waveforms --args
>> "addr0=192.168.10.2,addr1=192.168.20.2,time_src=external,clock_sr
>> c=ex
>> ternal,master_clock_rate=122.88e6" --rate 122.88e6 --freq 3.51e6
>> --
>> wave-type SINE --wave-freq 10e6 --gain 100--channels "0,4"
>> but unfortunately that does not work at all at my testbench
>> (program
>> hangs and no signal transmitted).
>> My UHD version is 3.13.0.2 (UHD_3.13.0.HEAD-0-g0ddc19e5)
>> Any help appreciated.
>> Thanks!
>> Florian.
>>
>>
>> On 04/12/2018 21:29, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users wrote:
>> Hi Marcus and Robin,
>> thanks for your answers, this is helpful information. I should
>> add,
>> that I actually tried the synchronization with an octoclock
>> (10MHz
>> + PPS), but it did not give me the expected results, i.e., I
>> saw
>> some residual frequency offsets. But maybe I screwed up at some
>> point. Let me do some more measurements and get back to you on
>> this.
>> Florian.
>>
>>
>> On 04/12/2018 18:57, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users wrote:
>> On 12/04/2018 10:14 AM, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>> I just discovered that in addition to the external 10MHz
>> reference in, the USRP N310 also has external local
>> oscilator
>> inputs, one for each daughterboard and each TX/RX. So does
>> that
>> mean that in order to synchronize multiple N310 in
>> frequency,
>> phase, and time, it is no longer sufficient to use an
>> octoclock
>> to provide a 10MHz reference and PPS? If so, at what
>> frequency
>> do you have to drive the external LOs and at what power?
>> Florian.
>>
>>
>> In addition to what Robin posted, I'll observe that the
>> external
>> LO port is an *additional feature* of this device.
>>
>> You should still be able to use the external 10MHz and 1PPS
>> ports
>> the same way you would with a B210 or E310, since the AD9371
>>  front-end chip is similar to the AD9361 chip used in the
>> B210
>> and E310.
>>
>> The thing about synchronizing multiple independent PLL
>> synthesizers, though, compared to a strictly-shared-LO, is
>> that
>> the former will
>>  experience both phase ambiguities, and have a higher mutual
>> phase-noise than the latter, which is why you might decide to
>> choose
>>  the latter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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