Hi Florian,

If you pass the arg  "--ref external" to tx_waveforms, does it resolve this
frequency offset?

https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/master/host/examples/tx_waveforms.cpp#L62

Regards,
Nate Temple

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 12:22 AM Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users <
usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote:

> Hi Marcus,
>
> I have measured this with a spectrum analyzer simply by setting markers to
> the peak of the sinusoid (one marker per measured USRP) and then taking the
> delta.
>
> Could it be that the USRP is ignoring the external reference when used
> alone? Remember, I am doing the test with one USRP at a time, as the test
> using multiple USRP simultaneously does not work.
>
> Florian.
> On 06/12/2018 00:29, Marcus Müller wrote:
>
> oh! That means 341 ppb frequency error, which *really* shouldn't be
> happening.
>
> I'd like to get some statistics of that error, how are you measuring
> it?
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
> On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:55 +0100, Florian Kaltenberger wrote:
>
> Sorry typo. I did use a frequency of 3.51GHz.
>
>
> On 5 Dec 2018, at 12:54, Marcus Müller <marcus.muel...@ettus.com> 
> <marcus.muel...@ettus.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Florian,
>
> trying to get my head to understand the order of problems here:
> Could you try to use a higher frequency (say, --freq 2e9 instead of
> 3.5e6)?
> I'd thing 3.51 MHz is out of range for the N310, anyway?
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
> On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:49 +0100, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-
> users
> wrote:
>
> So I can confirm that there is a frequency offset between the two
> USRP N310s when using only an octoclock (10MHz + PPS) to
> synchronize.
> I have measured with the tx_waveforms program
> ./tx_waveforms --args
> "addr=192.168.x.2,time_src=external,clock_src=external,master_clo
> ck_r
> ate=122.88e6" --rate 122.88e6 --freq 3.51e6 --wave-type SINE --
> wave-
> freq 10e6 --gain 100
> on the first USRP N310 (x=10) and then on the other (x=20). There
> is
> an offset of 1200Hz between the peaks of the sinusoids between
> the
> two measurements.
> Using an external LO didn't change anything either. Unless I need
> to
> provide any other arguments in that case?
> I also tried to do a test where I use both USRPs simultaneously
> ./tx_waveforms --args
> "addr0=192.168.10.2,addr1=192.168.20.2,time_src=external,clock_sr
> c=ex
> ternal,master_clock_rate=122.88e6" --rate 122.88e6 --freq 3.51e6
> --
> wave-type SINE --wave-freq 10e6 --gain 100--channels "0,4"
> but unfortunately that does not work at all at my testbench
> (program
> hangs and no signal transmitted).
> My UHD version is 3.13.0.2 (UHD_3.13.0.HEAD-0-g0ddc19e5)
> Any help appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Florian.
>
>
> On 04/12/2018 21:29, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users wrote:
> Hi Marcus and Robin,
> thanks for your answers, this is helpful information. I should
> add,
> that I actually tried the synchronization with an octoclock
> (10MHz
> + PPS), but it did not give me the expected results, i.e., I
> saw
> some residual frequency offsets. But maybe I screwed up at some
> point. Let me do some more measurements and get back to you on
> this.
> Florian.
>
>
> On 04/12/2018 18:57, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users wrote:
> On 12/04/2018 10:14 AM, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users
> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> I just discovered that in addition to the external 10MHz
> reference in, the USRP N310 also has external local
> oscilator
> inputs, one for each daughterboard and each TX/RX. So does
> that
> mean that in order to synchronize multiple N310 in
> frequency,
> phase, and time, it is no longer sufficient to use an
> octoclock
> to provide a 10MHz reference and PPS? If so, at what
> frequency
> do you have to drive the external LOs and at what power?
> Florian.
>
>
> In addition to what Robin posted, I'll observe that the
> external
> LO port is an *additional feature* of this device.
>
> You should still be able to use the external 10MHz and 1PPS
> ports
> the same way you would with a B210 or E310, since the AD9371
>  front-end chip is similar to the AD9361 chip used in the
> B210
> and E310.
>
> The thing about synchronizing multiple independent PLL
> synthesizers, though, compared to a strictly-shared-LO, is
> that
> the former will
>  experience both phase ambiguities, and have a higher mutual
> phase-noise than the latter, which is why you might decide to
> choose
>  the latter.
>
>
>
>
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