Personally I am fine with a 5.2 alpha release as I don't have to test too much functionality. But I guess if tapestry wants to be taken seriously in the enterprise world it needs to provide bug fixing releases for existing stable releases as otherwise the testing departments are crying for complete retests. (Apart from the fact that PMs are crying when they read alpha release just because they want have to a few major bugs fixed)
Markus On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: > True; the big question is whether bugs should be fixed for 5.1 (i.e., > leading up to a 5.1.0.6 release perhaps) or whether they can be > bundled into a 5.2 alpha release. > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Markus Joschko > <markus.josc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> But doesn't stabilizing mean to fix at least the major bugs? >> Especially if patches are provided? Otherwise it looks more like >> hibernating. >> >> Markus >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Kalle Korhonen >>> <kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM, David Rees <dree...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Ciaran Wood <ciar...@gamesys.co.uk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> The issue you were thinking of is >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-714 - there is a patch w/tests >>>>>> attached to the issue so a committer can probably fix this one! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, voted. BTW, it affects all versions of IE that I tested. >>>>> It's a show-stopper, not a minor issue - should raise the priority, >>>>> especially since it has a patch. >>>> >>>> Agree, maybe not a showstopper, but not a minor either. >>>> >>>>> How can we encourage the developers to get a release out with some of >>>>> these issues? Are people building their own local version with >>>>> patches applied? >>>> >>>> Starting to veer off-topic, but I think the issue there is that Howard >>>> has traditionally done all the releases, but he hasn't been actively >>>> involved in bug fixing lately (and probably shouldn't need to be). >>>> Howard's also been complaining about some difficulties with releasing >>>> but I don't know the details. I know though that setting up a fully >>>> automated release process with Maven can sometimes be taxing but the >>>> efforts are well worth it. Especially for bug fix releases, >>>> confidently being able to roll up yet another point release is great >>>> (at times, I release my projects a few times a week since it's so >>>> simple). I fully agree with you that more frequent point releases for >>>> T5 are badly needed. >>> >>> Actually, my intent has been to let T5 stabilize with 5.1 for a bit. >>> In addition, as some of my postings have mentioned, I feel that if I >>> start coding 5.2 features and bug fixes, I'll be less likely to start >>> on a book. >>> >>> Doing releases is merely time consuming; Maven isn't an overwhelming >>> factor in that ... it's more about the constraints of getting releases >>> out, voted and mirrored that can take several days from start to >>> finish. However, Andreas has been working on a new approach based on >>> the Nexus tool for Maven ... we'll have to see what the new process >>> looks like. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I'd avoid building your own versions if at all possible. Not because >>>> building would be too difficult, but with local versions, you need to >>>> deal with everything else included - deploying, maintaining, >>>> distributing and keeping track of versions. Use nightly snapshots from >>>> Formos if you have to and lock down to specific unique snapshot >>>> whenever possible. >>>> >>>> Kalle >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>> >>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>> >>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >>> >>> (971) 678-5210 >>> http://howardlewisship.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator of Apache Tapestry > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > (971) 678-5210 > http://howardlewisship.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
