True; the big question is whether bugs should be fixed for 5.1 (i.e.,
leading up to a 5.1.0.6 release perhaps) or whether they can be
bundled into a 5.2 alpha release.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Markus Joschko
<markus.josc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But doesn't stabilizing mean to fix at least the major bugs?
> Especially if patches are provided? Otherwise it looks more like
> hibernating.
>
> Markus
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Kalle Korhonen
>> <kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM, David Rees <dree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Ciaran Wood <ciar...@gamesys.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> The issue you were thinking of is
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-714 - there is a patch w/tests
>>>>> attached to the issue so a committer can probably fix this one!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, voted.  BTW, it affects all versions of IE that I tested.
>>>> It's a show-stopper, not a minor issue - should raise the priority,
>>>> especially since it has a patch.
>>>
>>> Agree, maybe not a showstopper, but not a minor either.
>>>
>>>> How can we encourage the developers to get a release out with some of
>>>> these issues?  Are people building their own local version with
>>>> patches applied?
>>>
>>> Starting to veer off-topic, but I think the issue there is that Howard
>>> has traditionally done all the releases, but he hasn't been actively
>>> involved in bug fixing lately (and probably shouldn't need to be).
>>> Howard's also been complaining about some difficulties with releasing
>>> but I don't know the details. I know though that setting up a fully
>>> automated release process with Maven can sometimes be taxing but the
>>> efforts are well worth it. Especially for bug fix releases,
>>> confidently being able to roll up yet another point release is great
>>> (at times, I release my projects a few times a week since it's so
>>> simple). I fully agree with you that more frequent point releases for
>>> T5 are badly needed.
>>
>> Actually, my intent has been to let T5 stabilize with 5.1 for a bit.
>> In addition, as some of my postings have mentioned, I feel that if I
>> start coding 5.2 features and bug fixes, I'll be less likely to start
>> on a book.
>>
>> Doing releases is merely time consuming; Maven isn't an overwhelming
>> factor in that ... it's more about the constraints of getting releases
>> out, voted and mirrored that can take several days from start to
>> finish. However, Andreas has been working on a new approach based on
>> the Nexus tool for Maven ... we'll have to see what the new process
>> looks like.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'd avoid building your own versions if at all possible. Not because
>>> building would be too difficult, but with local versions, you need to
>>> deal with everything else included - deploying, maintaining,
>>> distributing and keeping track of versions. Use nightly snapshots from
>>> Formos if you have to and lock down to specific unique snapshot
>>> whenever possible.
>>>
>>> Kalle
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