But doesn't stabilizing mean to fix at least the major bugs?
Especially if patches are provided? Otherwise it looks more like
hibernating.

Markus



On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Kalle Korhonen
> <kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM, David Rees <dree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Ciaran Wood <ciar...@gamesys.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> The issue you were thinking of is
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-714 - there is a patch w/tests
>>>> attached to the issue so a committer can probably fix this one!
>>>
>>> Thanks, voted.  BTW, it affects all versions of IE that I tested.
>>> It's a show-stopper, not a minor issue - should raise the priority,
>>> especially since it has a patch.
>>
>> Agree, maybe not a showstopper, but not a minor either.
>>
>>> How can we encourage the developers to get a release out with some of
>>> these issues?  Are people building their own local version with
>>> patches applied?
>>
>> Starting to veer off-topic, but I think the issue there is that Howard
>> has traditionally done all the releases, but he hasn't been actively
>> involved in bug fixing lately (and probably shouldn't need to be).
>> Howard's also been complaining about some difficulties with releasing
>> but I don't know the details. I know though that setting up a fully
>> automated release process with Maven can sometimes be taxing but the
>> efforts are well worth it. Especially for bug fix releases,
>> confidently being able to roll up yet another point release is great
>> (at times, I release my projects a few times a week since it's so
>> simple). I fully agree with you that more frequent point releases for
>> T5 are badly needed.
>
> Actually, my intent has been to let T5 stabilize with 5.1 for a bit.
> In addition, as some of my postings have mentioned, I feel that if I
> start coding 5.2 features and bug fixes, I'll be less likely to start
> on a book.
>
> Doing releases is merely time consuming; Maven isn't an overwhelming
> factor in that ... it's more about the constraints of getting releases
> out, voted and mirrored that can take several days from start to
> finish. However, Andreas has been working on a new approach based on
> the Nexus tool for Maven ... we'll have to see what the new process
> looks like.
>
>
>
>>
>> I'd avoid building your own versions if at all possible. Not because
>> building would be too difficult, but with local versions, you need to
>> deal with everything else included - deploying, maintaining,
>> distributing and keeping track of versions. Use nightly snapshots from
>> Formos if you have to and lock down to specific unique snapshot
>> whenever possible.
>>
>> Kalle
>>
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