On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:16 -0400, Neil Schwartzman wrote:
> On 28/05/09 9:03 PM, "Karsten Bräckelmann" <guent...@rudersport.de> wrote:
>
> > Incentive for you, to get em delisted from BRBL. The funky question is,
> > is BRBL part of your weighted blacklist metric?
>
> BRBL was and is in test mode for possible use against our whitelists.
>
> Given the huge amount of bumph I've seen and heard about emailreg.org, I
> figured it would be an interesting experiment to see if what everybody
> feared was happening was true. It isn't. No big extortion plan on the part
> of emailreg and Barracuda that I can see.
Good to hear.
> Fact is, while I think the reasons behind the initial listings are suspect,
> or misguided, or wrong, there is ZERO evidence I've seen or experienced that
> you need to pay emailreg.org to get delisted or stay delisted which is
> precisely as it should be.
>
> My incentive was that, and some early-morning OCD.
>
> This is the only time I have ever delisted a client IP, and there are a raft
> of DNSBL operators to back me up on that one. Our clients get listed, I want
> to know why, but I never ever ever ask for delistings. Ever. Why would I?
Exactly. :) Sounds good for the ReturnPath accreditation service. As
well as the BRBL delisting policy.
And even more a reason, to understand the state of "suspended" regarding
those IPs you checked that are in suspended state. Maybe limited to
those 20-odd still being listed by BRBL. This question, what suspended
means for those, is what covers the second half of this ping-pong.
BTW, explicitly asking or delisting of good IPs as well as a few known
bad ones (aka "suspended for violation") tells a LOT about the
reputation of a blacklist, if they keep the bad ones listed despite your
delisting request.
It is, however, unclear from your posts, if they managed to do that. Or,
why some senders are suspended in the first place. And how many of the
samples are actually suspended. If I don't know the samples under
evaluation, I can't trust the outcome. I don't even know if they have
been dead-on, or merely got the 50% average coverage.
A crucial point when discussing the reputation of any service.
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