On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 15:52 -0400, Neil Schwartzman wrote:
> On 28/05/09 3:09 PM, "Karsten Bräckelmann" <guent...@rudersport.de> wrote:
> 
> > I was merely arguing that not all blacklistings are necessarily bad,
> > just because they happen to be listed in SSC (or any other whitelist for
> > that matter), as I understood your post.
> 
> Re-reading what I wrote, I can't see where you got that impression. Please
> educate me as to how I could have written my post better.

I guess it was the fact that you more than once stated the reason for
listing in BRBL *is* foo, although the snippet of evidence you showed
for that clearly claimed it *might* be the reason, one possibility out
of a number of reasons, with a few common ones listed. Of which you
picked two to jump on.

Anyway, later in the thread you clearly said you where actually not
arguing /based/ on being RP Certified. Hence me specifically qualifying
my statements with how I understood yours.


> > Maybe I should have uppercased
> > all words like ONLY or SOLE like you, so you don't skip them.
> 
> Yes thanks, since apparently my linguistic skills aren't up to snuff. Damned
> that degree in English Literature from a second-rate university.

See, that might be it. I don't have a degree in English Literature. And
as a matter fact, English isn't my mother tongue, either -- so if you
get too fancy with your language, you might lose your readers. ;)


> > (BTW, the term "suspended" is quite irritating in this context.)
> 
> I use the nomenclature we have been using for 3 years, developed without
> public consultation.

No need for public consultation, but without public disclosure of
internal nomenclature, a term's exact definition might not be clear to
everyone, leaving room for interpretation. Hence me implicitly asking.

> Enabled = on the whitelist
> Suspended = removed from the whitelist, live in the client account
> Disabled = removed from the client account

Suspended on request by the client, suspended due to complaints pending
investigation, or forcefully suspended due to abuse and violating the
terms of accreditation?

My irritation might also come from the fact, that "suspended user" was
used in the sense of terminated, "shut down account" in the resolution
note of my ticket with SSSL / SSC.


I don't whine about FNs by accreditation services or disable whitelists.
That would be easy. I report abuse, in an attempt to make the service
better and for everyone to benefit by that. As you might recall from the
dev list, Neil. ;)

  guenther


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