Good afternoon, Raymond, all,
        (Raymond, you probably already know this, but I wanted to quickly
cover it for other people that may also be considering whether or not to
use AWL).

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:

> >> I gotta think this isn't gonna happen... but anyone know if it can?  If so,
> >> I'm not going to enable AWL on my server.
> >
> >     To the best of my knowledge, this has already been addressed.
> > What goes in the AWL isn't just the raw email address, it's the email
> > address plus the first two octets of the source IP address.  For someone
> > to successfully attack this way, the attacker would need a legal IP
> > address in the same class B network as the legitimate sender.
> >     If sent from a different network, the +1000 user would show up in
> > a different AWL entry than the legitimate sender.
> 
> We turned off AWL, we had a customer that forwarded two spam messages to 
> our helpdesk, the third normal message never came in, since his AWL beat 
> him...

        That's a different issue.  If the customer used _forward_ rather 
than _bounce_, SA treats the entire message as coming from that email 
address and class B network, so yes, the customer's AWL score will be 
hurt.
        This is why people are encouraged to _bounce_ the original 
message, so the sender email address is still the original one, and then 
won't hurt the customer.
http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html#autoreporting
http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html#restrictreport
http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html#redirect
        Cheers,
        - Bill

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