On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:13 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2024-09-05 at 14:48 +0100, Barry wrote:
> >
> > > On 5 Sep 2024, at 12:15, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallag...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe there is an ongoing discussion about how pip should be more
> > > integrated with packaging systems to avoid this kind of confusion.
> >
> > Not sure what you are referring to, all discussion are long over.
> >
> https://lwn.net/Articles/924104/
>
> Admittedly this is from last year. I don't follow Python news very
> closely.

This made my radar today:
<https://jfrog.com/blog/revival-hijack-pypi-hijack-technique-exploited-22k-packages-at-risk/>.
It's like Peter Gutmann said: "A great many of today’s security
technologies are “secure” only because no-one has ever bothered
attacking them."

> > The current state is that you MUST use a venv for all pip installed 
> > packages.
> > That is the accepted solution.
> >
> > Also pip was changed to prevent you installing outside a venv without 
> > explicit command option to override.
>
> That doesn't seem to correspond with the man page, which has:
>
>   --require-virtualenv        Allow pip to only run in a virtual environment; 
> exit with an error otherwise.
>
> However there is no indication that this is the default, and when I run
> pip install I get no warning about it.

Jeff
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