On Thu, 2024-09-05 at 14:48 +0100, Barry wrote:
> 
> > On 5 Sep 2024, at 12:15, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I believe there is an ongoing discussion about how pip should be more
> > integrated with packaging systems to avoid this kind of confusion.
> 
> Not sure what you are referring to, all discussion are long over.
> 
> 
https://lwn.net/Articles/924104/

Admittedly this is from last year. I don't follow Python news very
closely.

> The current state is that you MUST use a venv for all pip installed packages.
> That is the accepted solution.
> 
> Also pip was changed to prevent you installing outside a venv without 
> explicit command option to override.

That doesn't seem to correspond with the man page, which has:

  --require-virtualenv        Allow pip to only run in a virtual environment; 
exit with an error otherwise.

However there is no indication that this is the default, and when I run
pip install I get no warning about it.

poc
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