On 06/02/18 17:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: >>> On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> >>>> You did online updates? This is the reason why offline updates is the >>>> default now, because doing updates without a reboot can cause weird >>>> situations like this. >>> Ok, you maniacs finally did it, you made a Linux suck as hard as >>> Windows. I'm out. >> Seriously? This discussion comes up regularly. In most cases online >> updates work, but sometimes there are issues. Read the past threads for >> more info, but it's an extremely hard problem to make it always work for >> very obvious reasons when you think about what's happening. > I rely on tracer (using the dnf plugin) to tell me when I need to > reboot. Are you saying this is unreliable? > Where did Sam say anything about tracer?
FWIW, I don't use the tracer dnf plugin since I use the nVidia drivers from rpmfusion and akmods. It may have been improved. But when I was using it and a kernel update happened the tracer process would keep the rpmdb locked so when the nVidia mods were compiled they failed to install. -- Conjecture is just a conclusion based on incomplete information. It isn't a fact.
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