On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > 
> > > You did online updates?  This is the reason why offline updates is the
> > > default now, because doing updates without a reboot can cause weird
> > > situations like this.
> > 
> > Ok, you maniacs finally did it, you made a Linux suck as hard as
> > Windows.  I'm out.
> 
> Seriously?  This discussion comes up regularly.  In most cases online 
> updates work, but sometimes there are issues.  Read the past threads for 
> more info, but it's an extremely hard problem to make it always work for 
> very obvious reasons when you think about what's happening.

I rely on tracer (using the dnf plugin) to tell me when I need to
reboot. Are you saying this is unreliable?

poc
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