On 2/9/21 12:59 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Well I start to add new room option for 'suffix'
But find out I'm not sure how should it work
1) It is impossible to delete recordings from Moodle plugin
Currently it is possible, is it going to be 'impossible' ?
2) It seems filtering will also be useless due to 'suffix' will be in
effect _AFTER_ save, and not before
The suffix should be defined in the activity creation (input text box)
form, so when the activity is created, the teacher will get something
like 'moodle-ENG101' if the suffix is defined as '-ENG101' and module is
'moodle' by default. And in turn, a new group should be created in OM
database called 'moodle-ENG101'.
And when the teacher finishes his lesson recording, he rename it, and
move it to the 'moodle-ENG101' group recordings that is shown in his
files tree, so that when he wants to created 'recording only' activity,
he can select:
1. The group name that belongs to him, then
2. The recording of that specific group.
:-)
sounds like I don't understand the use case :(
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 14:25, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com
<mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 22:48, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>>
wrote:
The main issues we face:
1. All teachers share the same repository of recordings which
makes mistakes of deleting the recording very common :-(
2. When using 'show recording' all recordings will be on the
list, can you imagine how many 'Chapter 1 - introduction'
recording would be on the list ??? almost all teachers name
their first lesson that.
these 2 will be addressed with new Moodle room option
3. And still in the plugin activity downloading the recording
is done in an internal name, not as named by the teacher.
this need to be investigated
Ali
On 12/30/20 5:51 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
Yes, moodle database is not UTF8 by default, but we usually
change it. And, yes, it has the same name, however, one more
thing, it was two word group name separated by space
'النُّجُومُ الخَمْسَةِ'. if single Arabic word without space
is used then show recording' will work as expected.
Ali
On 12/30/20 5:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 18:34, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
It seems that 'show recordings' did not work was not
because 'Module key' was not 'moodle', but because
'Module key' was an Arabic name,
Aha!
this makes sense
Moodle database is not UTF8 by default
can you check in the logs (and in OM)
Does the group created in OM has the same name as "Module key"?
when we changed it to English name, it did work ...
Ali
On 12/30/20 12:54 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
Than you @Max, see my response embedded ...
Ali
On 12/30/20 12:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 13:45, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
On 12/23/20 9:22 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Ali,
thirst of all we need to agree on definitions :)
OM instance for me is "configured OM server"
What do you mean by this?
Yes, thirst, but for new and enhanced features :-)
I mean "first", sorry for the typo :(
That is OK :-)
OM instance is the activity created in one class
and not the plugin (OM plugin), so let re-write:
moving 'Module key' from OM plugin config to the
config of OM activity created in one class.
Moving "Module-key" is not an option
It also serves for security purposes i.e. to make
rooms/users/recordings of one connected plugin to be
inaccessible for another plugin
What I can propose is to add "suffix" i.e.
teacher/admin can create OM activity and specify
"Group" in additional field (empty by default)
In such case module key will be `plugin key`
concatenated with `group`
Would it be OK?
Currently, 'Module key' will create a group in OM
server called 'moodle', and, unless it is 'moodle' the
usage of OM activity (instance) as 'show recordings'
will not work ! all other functions are OK, even
recording, sharing .... and if we put anything else
other than 'moodle', the plugin will create that group,
but 'show recordings' will not show any recordings.
So, as per your idea (which is very good and practical)
'Module key' will keep being 'moodle' in OM plugin
configuration, however, when creating an activity
(instance), the teacher will have an extra field to
fill (Group), lets assume it will be as course name,
how it will reflect in room tree of recordings?
currently we move recordings (after renaming them) to
'Group recordings' with the name 'moodle' so that 'show
recordings' can be used. Can you please share your good
thoughts :-)
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 08:02, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
I assumed so, but it did not. Although we
have tens of recordings in private, group and
public in so many OM instances, the list
always shows 'no recordings'.
Only recordings made by user entered from Moodle
plugin with same key will be listed
all those public, private etc. will not be listed
True, but only for the creator in 'my' and for
group members in 'group' when in the room of type
'conference' but non in the 'Show recordings'
unless Module key is moodle !
I don't understand this comment :(
I just have tested: recordings works as expected:
My steps:
1. add Activity
2. choose OM
3. fill `Room name`
4. select `Show Recording (select recording from drop
down to be shown instead of meeting)` as `Room type`
5. select recording
6. save and display
Keeping in mind that:
- OM Data folder in out of OM installation
folder,
it doesn't matter
- Module key is not 'moodle'
it doesn't matter
- OM server is not on moodle server.
it doesn't matter
Ali
On 12/22/20 7:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
something like
1) you create Moodle room as usual
2) do recording
3) then create new OM activity with type
"Recording"
4) select recording you made on step 2)
5) save
Result: your users will see OM recordings
panel with this particular recording and can
watch it :)
sort of "share recording" to Moodle users :)
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 20:19, Ali Alhaidary
<ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
<mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:
How to use room type 'Show Recording' ?
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