Well I start to add new room option for 'suffix' But find out I'm not sure how should it work
1) It is impossible to delete recordings from Moodle plugin 2) It seems filtering will also be useless due to 'suffix' will be in effect _AFTER_ save, and not before sounds like I don't understand the use case :( On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 14:25, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 22:48, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> > wrote: > >> The main issues we face: >> >> 1. All teachers share the same repository of recordings which makes >> mistakes of deleting the recording very common :-( >> >> 2. When using 'show recording' all recordings will be on the list, can >> you imagine how many 'Chapter 1 - introduction' recording would be on the >> list ??? almost all teachers name their first lesson that. >> > > these 2 will be addressed with new Moodle room option > > >> 3. And still in the plugin activity downloading the recording is done in >> an internal name, not as named by the teacher. >> > > this need to be investigated > > >> Ali >> >> >> On 12/30/20 5:51 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >> >> Yes, moodle database is not UTF8 by default, but we usually change it. >> And, yes, it has the same name, however, one more thing, it was two word >> group name separated by space 'النُّجُومُ الخَمْسَةِ'. if single Arabic >> word without space is used then show recording' will work as expected. >> >> Ali >> On 12/30/20 5:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 18:34, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >> wrote: >> >>> It seems that 'show recordings' did not work was not because 'Module >>> key' was not 'moodle', but because 'Module key' was an Arabic name, >>> >> Aha! >> this makes sense >> Moodle database is not UTF8 by default >> can you check in the logs (and in OM) >> Does the group created in OM has the same name as "Module key"? >> >>> when we changed it to English name, it did work ... >>> >>> Ali >>> On 12/30/20 12:54 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >>> >>> Than you @Max, see my response embedded ... >>> >>> Ali >>> On 12/30/20 12:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 13:45, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 12/23/20 9:22 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>> >>>> Ali, >>>> >>>> thirst of all we need to agree on definitions :) >>>> >>>> OM instance for me is "configured OM server" >>>> What do you mean by this? >>>> >>>> Yes, thirst, but for new and enhanced features :-) >>>> >>> >>> I mean "first", sorry for the typo :( >>> >>> That is OK :-) >>> >>> OM instance is the activity created in one class and not the plugin (OM >>>> plugin), so let re-write: >>>> >>>> moving 'Module key' from OM plugin config to the config of OM activity >>>> created in one class. >>>> >>> >>> Moving "Module-key" is not an option >>> It also serves for security purposes i.e. to make rooms/users/recordings >>> of one connected plugin to be inaccessible for another plugin >>> What I can propose is to add "suffix" i.e. teacher/admin can create OM >>> activity and specify "Group" in additional field (empty by default) >>> In such case module key will be `plugin key` concatenated with `group` >>> Would it be OK? >>> >>> Currently, 'Module key' will create a group in OM server called >>> 'moodle', and, unless it is 'moodle' the usage of OM activity (instance) as >>> 'show recordings' will not work ! all other functions are OK, even >>> recording, sharing .... and if we put anything else other than 'moodle', >>> the plugin will create that group, but 'show recordings' will not show any >>> recordings. >>> >>> So, as per your idea (which is very good and practical) 'Module key' >>> will keep being 'moodle' in OM plugin configuration, however, when creating >>> an activity (instance), the teacher will have an extra field to fill >>> (Group), lets assume it will be as course name, how it will reflect in room >>> tree of recordings? currently we move recordings (after renaming them) to >>> 'Group recordings' with the name 'moodle' so that 'show recordings' can be >>> used. Can you please share your good thoughts :-) >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 08:02, Ali Alhaidary < >>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I assumed so, but it did not. Although we have tens of recordings in >>>>> private, group and public in so many OM instances, the list always shows >>>>> 'no recordings'. >>>>> >>>> Only recordings made by user entered from Moodle plugin with same key >>>> will be listed >>>> >>>> all those public, private etc. will not be listed >>>> >>>> True, but only for the creator in 'my' and for group members in 'group' >>>> when in the room of type 'conference' but non in the 'Show recordings' >>>> unless Module key is moodle ! >>>> >>> >>> I don't understand this comment :( >>> I just have tested: recordings works as expected: >>> >>> My steps: >>> >>> 1. add Activity >>> 2. choose OM >>> 3. fill `Room name` >>> 4. select `Show Recording (select recording from drop down to be >>> shown instead of meeting)` as `Room type` >>> 5. select recording >>> 6. save and display >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> Keeping in mind that: >>>>> >>>>> - OM Data folder in out of OM installation folder, >>>>> >>>> it doesn't matter >>>> >>>>> - Module key is not 'moodle' >>>>> >>>> it doesn't matter >>>> >>>>> - OM server is not on moodle server. >>>>> >>>> it doesn't matter >>>> >>>>> Ali >>>>> On 12/22/20 7:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>> >>>>> something like >>>>> >>>>> 1) you create Moodle room as usual >>>>> 2) do recording >>>>> 3) then create new OM activity with type "Recording" >>>>> 4) select recording you made on step 2) >>>>> 5) save >>>>> Result: your users will see OM recordings panel with this particular >>>>> recording and can watch it :) >>>>> >>>>> sort of "share recording" to Moodle users :) >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 20:19, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How to use room type 'Show Recording' ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Maxim >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > -- Best regards, Maxim
