On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 22:48, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
> The main issues we face: > > 1. All teachers share the same repository of recordings which makes > mistakes of deleting the recording very common :-( > > 2. When using 'show recording' all recordings will be on the list, can you > imagine how many 'Chapter 1 - introduction' recording would be on the list > ??? almost all teachers name their first lesson that. > these 2 will be addressed with new Moodle room option > 3. And still in the plugin activity downloading the recording is done in > an internal name, not as named by the teacher. > this need to be investigated > Ali > > > On 12/30/20 5:51 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: > > Yes, moodle database is not UTF8 by default, but we usually change it. > And, yes, it has the same name, however, one more thing, it was two word > group name separated by space 'النُّجُومُ الخَمْسَةِ'. if single Arabic > word without space is used then show recording' will work as expected. > > Ali > On 12/30/20 5:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 18:34, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> > wrote: > >> It seems that 'show recordings' did not work was not because 'Module key' >> was not 'moodle', but because 'Module key' was an Arabic name, >> > Aha! > this makes sense > Moodle database is not UTF8 by default > can you check in the logs (and in OM) > Does the group created in OM has the same name as "Module key"? > >> when we changed it to English name, it did work ... >> >> Ali >> On 12/30/20 12:54 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >> >> Than you @Max, see my response embedded ... >> >> Ali >> On 12/30/20 12:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 13:45, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 12/23/20 9:22 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> thirst of all we need to agree on definitions :) >>> >>> OM instance for me is "configured OM server" >>> What do you mean by this? >>> >>> Yes, thirst, but for new and enhanced features :-) >>> >> >> I mean "first", sorry for the typo :( >> >> That is OK :-) >> >> OM instance is the activity created in one class and not the plugin (OM >>> plugin), so let re-write: >>> >>> moving 'Module key' from OM plugin config to the config of OM activity >>> created in one class. >>> >> >> Moving "Module-key" is not an option >> It also serves for security purposes i.e. to make rooms/users/recordings >> of one connected plugin to be inaccessible for another plugin >> What I can propose is to add "suffix" i.e. teacher/admin can create OM >> activity and specify "Group" in additional field (empty by default) >> In such case module key will be `plugin key` concatenated with `group` >> Would it be OK? >> >> Currently, 'Module key' will create a group in OM server called 'moodle', >> and, unless it is 'moodle' the usage of OM activity (instance) as 'show >> recordings' will not work ! all other functions are OK, even recording, >> sharing .... and if we put anything else other than 'moodle', the plugin >> will create that group, but 'show recordings' will not show any recordings. >> >> So, as per your idea (which is very good and practical) 'Module key' will >> keep being 'moodle' in OM plugin configuration, however, when creating an >> activity (instance), the teacher will have an extra field to fill (Group), >> lets assume it will be as course name, how it will reflect in room tree of >> recordings? currently we move recordings (after renaming them) to 'Group >> recordings' with the name 'moodle' so that 'show recordings' can be used. >> Can you please share your good thoughts :-) >> >> >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 08:02, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I assumed so, but it did not. Although we have tens of recordings in >>>> private, group and public in so many OM instances, the list always shows >>>> 'no recordings'. >>>> >>> Only recordings made by user entered from Moodle plugin with same key >>> will be listed >>> >>> all those public, private etc. will not be listed >>> >>> True, but only for the creator in 'my' and for group members in 'group' >>> when in the room of type 'conference' but non in the 'Show recordings' >>> unless Module key is moodle ! >>> >> >> I don't understand this comment :( >> I just have tested: recordings works as expected: >> >> My steps: >> >> 1. add Activity >> 2. choose OM >> 3. fill `Room name` >> 4. select `Show Recording (select recording from drop down to be >> shown instead of meeting)` as `Room type` >> 5. select recording >> 6. save and display >> >> >>> >>>> Keeping in mind that: >>>> >>>> - OM Data folder in out of OM installation folder, >>>> >>> it doesn't matter >>> >>>> - Module key is not 'moodle' >>>> >>> it doesn't matter >>> >>>> - OM server is not on moodle server. >>>> >>> it doesn't matter >>> >>>> Ali >>>> On 12/22/20 7:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>> >>>> something like >>>> >>>> 1) you create Moodle room as usual >>>> 2) do recording >>>> 3) then create new OM activity with type "Recording" >>>> 4) select recording you made on step 2) >>>> 5) save >>>> Result: your users will see OM recordings panel with this particular >>>> recording and can watch it :) >>>> >>>> sort of "share recording" to Moodle users :) >>>> >>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 20:19, Ali Alhaidary < >>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> How to use room type 'Show Recording' ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > -- Best regards, Maxim
