INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:48:59,335 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 1315 ms for 1 collections, 6558662864 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:49:22,530 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 661 ms for 1 collections, 7302433920 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:49:43,595 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 820 ms for 1 collections, 7494556024 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:50:06,002 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 1057 ms for 1 collections, 7867906264 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:50:26,432 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 1025 ms for 1 collections, 7845991024 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:50:50,266 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 624 ms for 1 collections, 7148089096 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:51:12,549 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 617 ms for 1 collections, 7092289680 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:51:34,433 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 821 ms for 1 collections, 7454785104 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:51:58,054 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 1326 ms for 1 collections, 7767441672 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:52:22,980 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 1103 ms for 1 collections, 7649036600 used; max is 
8422162432
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-28 14:52:42,887 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 877 ms for 1 collections, 7317935816 used; max is 
8422162432

Does not take too long, but maybe it happens a bit too often ? I'll experiment 
with reducing the bloom filter and/or increasing the heap ( maybe the newgen a 
bit )

Thanks for the tips!
Andras

From: aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com<mailto:aa...@thelastpickle.com>>
Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Date: Thursday 28 February 2013 19:43
To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: "Heap is N.N full." Immediately on startup

- still getting 1-2 sstable reads with LCS
That's bang in the wheel house
http://www.datastax.com/dev/blog/when-to-use-leveled-compaction

However at startup I see a 5GB old gen ( that seems to be very stable at around 
5.5GB under moderate 90:10 read:write load - couple hundred q/s )
At 300 to 400 million rows that sounds roughly right. I've not done any 
calculations, but I just spilt a coffee and checked the stain it made.

The interesting thing is what happens at the end of a CMS run. How low does it 
get ?

 Also hinted handoff is off, as full GC pauses of 1-3seconds on nodes I have 
not yet attended to
I would look at the first.
Search the user group for "correlate compaction gc" as a starting point.

Cheers

-----------------
Aaron Morton
Freelance Cassandra Developer
New Zealand

@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com

-----------------
Aaron Morton
Freelance Cassandra Developer
New Zealand

@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com

On 26/02/2013, at 3:22 AM, Andras Szerdahelyi 
<andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com<mailto:andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com>> 
wrote:

( I am monitoring via a visual vm plugin that shows generation sizes )
I've increased the index sampling rate from 64 to 512 and the bloom filter fp 
ratio from default to 0.1 ( and rebuilt stables ) - still getting 1-2 sstable 
reads with LCS
However at startup I see a 5GB old gen ( that seems to be very stable at around 
5.5GB under moderate 90:10 read:write load - couple hundred q/s ) is that a 
realistic size with these values and a ~200GB CF with 3-400mil rows? ( no 
secondary indexes, skinny rows 1-5K each ) ?

Also hinted handoff is off, as full GC pauses of 1-3seconds on nodes I have not 
yet attended to ( sampling rate at 64, bloom fp default ) are kicking off the 
failure detector even at a phi_convict_threshold of 12 ( apparently ? ) and 
everything is in an up/down dance :-)

Thanks!
Andras

From: aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com<mailto:aa...@thelastpickle.com>>
Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Date: Friday 22 February 2013 17:44
To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: "Heap is N.N full." Immediately on startup

To get a good idea of how GC is performing turn on the GC logging in 
cassandra-env.sh.

After a full cms GC event, see how big the tenured heap is. If it's not 
reducing enough then GC will never get far enough ahead.

Cheers

-----------------
Aaron Morton
Freelance Cassandra Developer
New Zealand

@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com<http://www.thelastpickle.com/>

On 22/02/2013, at 8:37 AM, Andras Szerdahelyi 
<andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com<mailto:andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com>> 
wrote:

Thank you- indeed my index interval is 64 with a CF of 300M rows + bloom filter 
false positive chance was default.
Raising the index interval to 512 didn't fix this  alone, so I guess I'll have 
to set the bloom filter to some reasonable value and scrub.

From: aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com<mailto:aa...@thelastpickle.com>>
Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Date: Thursday 21 February 2013 17:58
To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: "Heap is N.N full." Immediately on startup

My first guess would be the bloom filter and index sampling from lots-o-rows

Check the row count in cfstats
Check the bloom filter size in cfstats.

Background on memory requirements 
http://www.mail-archive.com/user@cassandra.apache.org/msg25762.html

Cheers

-----------------
Aaron Morton
Freelance Cassandra Developer
New Zealand

@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com<http://www.thelastpickle.com/>

On 20/02/2013, at 11:27 PM, Andras Szerdahelyi 
<andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com<mailto:andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com>> 
wrote:

Hey list,

Any ideas ( before I take a heap dump ) what might be consuming my 8GB JVM heap 
at startup in Cassandra 1.1.6 besides

  *   row cache : not persisted and is at 0 keys when this warning is produced
  *   Memtables : no write traffic at startup, my app's column families are 
durable_writes:false
  *   Pending tasks : no pending tasks, except for 928 compactions ( not sure 
where those are coming from )

I drew these conclusions from the StatusLogger output below:

INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,198 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 14959 ms for 2 collections, 7017934560 used; max is 
8375238656
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,198 StatusLogger.java (line 57) 
Pool Name                    Active   Pending   Blocked
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,199 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
ReadStage                         0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,200 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
RequestResponseStage              0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,200 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
ReadRepairStage                   0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,200 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MutationStage                     0        -1         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
ReplicateOnWriteStage             0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
GossipStage                       0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
AntiEntropyStage                  0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MigrationStage                    0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
StreamStage                       0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MemtablePostFlusher               0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
FlushWriter                       0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MiscStage                         0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
commitlog_archiver                0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,203 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
InternalResponseStage             0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 77) 
CompactionManager                 0       928
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 89) 
MessagingService                n/a       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 99) 
Cache Type                     Size                 Capacity               
KeysToSave                                                         Provider
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 100) 
KeyCache                         25                       25                    
  all
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 106) 
RowCache                          0                        0                    
  all              org.apache.cassandra.cache.SerializingCacheProvider
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 113) 
ColumnFamily                Memtable ops,data
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
MYAPP_1.CF                        0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
MYAPP_2.CF                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
HiveMetaStore.MetaStore                   0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.NodeIdInfo                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.IndexInfo                          0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.LocationInfo                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.Versions                           0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.schema_keyspaces                   0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.Migrations                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.schema_columnfamilies                 0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.schema_columns                     0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.HintsColumnFamily                  0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.Schema                             0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs_archive.sblocks                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs_archive.cleanup                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs_archive.inode                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs.cleanup                               0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs.sblocks                               0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs.inode                                 0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.events                          0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups300                      0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups86400                    0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.pdps                      345,54448
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.events_timeline                 0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.settings                        0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups7200                     0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups60                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
demo.users                                0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
MYAPP_3.CF                         0,0
 WARN [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 GCInspector.java (line 145) 
Heap is 0.8379384574280004 full.  You may need to reduce memtable and/or cache 
sizes.  Cassandra will now flush up to the two largest memtables to free up 
memory.  Adjust flush_largest_memtables_at threshold in cassandra.yaml if you 
don't want Cassandra to do this automatically
 WARN [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,217 StorageService.java (line 
2855) Flushing CFS(Keyspace='OpsCenter', ColumnFamily='pdps') to relieve memory 
pressure
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,217 ColumnFamilyStore.java (line 
659) Enqueuing flush of Memtable-pdps@98567689(15238/54448 serialized/live 
bytes, 345 ops)
 INFO [FlushWriter:6] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,218 Memtable.java (line 264) Writing 
Memtable-pdps@98567689(15238/54448 serialized/live bytes, 345 ops)
 INFO [FlushWriter:6] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,241 Memtable.java (line 305) 
Completed flushing 
/var/lib/cassandra/data/OpsCenter/pdps/OpsCenter-pdps-hf-127-Data.db (5394 
bytes) for commitlog position ReplayPosition(segmentId=1361354508149, :



Thanks!
Andras




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