Thank you- indeed my index interval is 64 with a CF of 300M rows + bloom filter 
false positive chance was default.
Raising the index interval to 512 didn't fix this  alone, so I guess I'll have 
to set the bloom filter to some reasonable value and scrub.

From: aaron morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com<mailto:aa...@thelastpickle.com>>
Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Date: Thursday 21 February 2013 17:58
To: "user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>" 
<user@cassandra.apache.org<mailto:user@cassandra.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: "Heap is N.N full." Immediately on startup

My first guess would be the bloom filter and index sampling from lots-o-rows

Check the row count in cfstats
Check the bloom filter size in cfstats.

Background on memory requirements 
http://www.mail-archive.com/user@cassandra.apache.org/msg25762.html

Cheers

-----------------
Aaron Morton
Freelance Cassandra Developer
New Zealand

@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com

On 20/02/2013, at 11:27 PM, Andras Szerdahelyi 
<andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com<mailto:andras.szerdahe...@ignitionone.com>> 
wrote:

Hey list,

Any ideas ( before I take a heap dump ) what might be consuming my 8GB JVM heap 
at startup in Cassandra 1.1.6 besides

  *   row cache : not persisted and is at 0 keys when this warning is produced
  *   Memtables : no write traffic at startup, my app's column families are 
durable_writes:false
  *   Pending tasks : no pending tasks, except for 928 compactions ( not sure 
where those are coming from )

I drew these conclusions from the StatusLogger output below:

INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,198 GCInspector.java (line 122) GC 
for ConcurrentMarkSweep: 14959 ms for 2 collections, 7017934560 used; max is 
8375238656
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,198 StatusLogger.java (line 57) 
Pool Name                    Active   Pending   Blocked
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,199 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
ReadStage                         0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,200 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
RequestResponseStage              0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,200 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
ReadRepairStage                   0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,200 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MutationStage                     0        -1         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
ReplicateOnWriteStage             0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
GossipStage                       0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
AntiEntropyStage                  0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MigrationStage                    0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,201 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
StreamStage                       0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MemtablePostFlusher               0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
FlushWriter                       0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
MiscStage                         0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,202 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
commitlog_archiver                0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,203 StatusLogger.java (line 72) 
InternalResponseStage             0         0         0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 77) 
CompactionManager                 0       928
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 89) 
MessagingService                n/a       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 99) 
Cache Type                     Size                 Capacity               
KeysToSave                                                         Provider
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,212 StatusLogger.java (line 100) 
KeyCache                         25                       25                    
  all
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 106) 
RowCache                          0                        0                    
  all              org.apache.cassandra.cache.SerializingCacheProvider
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 113) 
ColumnFamily                Memtable ops,data
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
MYAPP_1.CF                        0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
MYAPP_2.CF                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
HiveMetaStore.MetaStore                   0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.NodeIdInfo                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.IndexInfo                          0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,213 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.LocationInfo                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.Versions                           0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.schema_keyspaces                   0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.Migrations                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.schema_columnfamilies                 0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.schema_columns                     0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.HintsColumnFamily                  0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
system.Schema                             0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs_archive.sblocks                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,214 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs_archive.cleanup                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs_archive.inode                         0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs.cleanup                               0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs.sblocks                               0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
cfs.inode                                 0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.events                          0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups300                      0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups86400                    0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.pdps                      345,54448
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,215 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.events_timeline                 0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.settings                        0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups7200                     0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
OpsCenter.rollups60                       0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
demo.users                                0,0
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 StatusLogger.java (line 116) 
MYAPP_3.CF                         0,0
 WARN [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,216 GCInspector.java (line 145) 
Heap is 0.8379384574280004 full.  You may need to reduce memtable and/or cache 
sizes.  Cassandra will now flush up to the two largest memtables to free up 
memory.  Adjust flush_largest_memtables_at threshold in cassandra.yaml if you 
don't want Cassandra to do this automatically
 WARN [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,217 StorageService.java (line 
2855) Flushing CFS(Keyspace='OpsCenter', ColumnFamily='pdps') to relieve memory 
pressure
 INFO [ScheduledTasks:1] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,217 ColumnFamilyStore.java (line 
659) Enqueuing flush of Memtable-pdps@98567689(15238/54448 serialized/live 
bytes, 345 ops)
 INFO [FlushWriter:6] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,218 Memtable.java (line 264) Writing 
Memtable-pdps@98567689(15238/54448 serialized/live bytes, 345 ops)
 INFO [FlushWriter:6] 2013-02-20 05:13:25,241 Memtable.java (line 305) 
Completed flushing 
/var/lib/cassandra/data/OpsCenter/pdps/OpsCenter-pdps-hf-127-Data.db (5394 
bytes) for commitlog position ReplayPosition(segmentId=1361354508149, :



Thanks!
Andras


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