Hi,

i agree totally. I used Dan Shafer´s  "Software at the Speed of Thought" when 
starting with RevStudio". 
It was a good introduction into programming with RevStudio. This book should be 
included with every LC license for free.

Matthias


Am 20.07.2012 um 15:02 schrieb stgoldb...@aol.com:

> 
> 
> I have used LiveCode extensively to develop my company's  educational 
> software.  It's a great program.  I think one of the reasons why LiveCode is 
> not more widely adopted is the lack of an adequate user manual that would 
> attract beginners.   I ask, would you recommend the present LiveCode user 
> manual to a student who has no background in programming and is just 
> starting?  I wouldn't; it's too advanced and incomplete at the same time, 
> mixes complex with simple, has no Index, says virtually nothing about the 
> all-important property inspectors, and focuses only spottily on the key 
> scripting words.  An adequate manual should clearly present 150 or so of the 
> basic scripting words, which was the extent of HyperCard's vocabulary and 
> made HyperCard easier to learn.  The beginner in LiveCode is expected to rely 
> on the LiveCode dictionary, which, while truly excellent, contains some 2000 
> scripting words, far too many for the beginner to deal with.  The problem has 
> become more pronounced with new advances in LiveCode's features.   This is 
> why I wrote my own manual (190 pgs. plus figures) for my son. 
> 
> 
> All other major programming languages have a variety of manuals in the 
> bookstores.  Where are they for LiveCode?  It is insufficient to just direct 
> the user to scattered tutorials on the Internet or to seminars; there needs 
> to be a book that the user can easily use while learning the programming from 
> scratch.   Many people on this forum (including myself) have a background in 
> HyperCard or MetaCard that has made it relatively easy to migrate to 
> Revolution/LiveCode.  What happens when the old guard dies out?  Will 
> beginners who have no such background replace them?  Or will beginners 
> navigate to other programming languages for lack of an adequate LiveCode 
> manual?
> 
> 
> I have spent 25 years teaching medical students and programming in HyperCard 
> and its successors. I'd love to develop for mobile apps, but I have not yet 
> subscribed to LiveCode for this, because these features are not in the 
> present user manual, and I am unaware of adequate, organized, step-by-step, 
> printed documentation that puts it all together and I can keep in front of me 
> on my desk as I work. (Perhaps Colin Holgate's forthcoming book, LiveCode 
> Mobile Development Beginner's Guide, will make a difference.)    My 
> publishing company, Medmaster, is based on educational principles designed to 
> teach medical students learning complex subjects for the first time.  My 
> sense is that sales of LiveCode in the schools and elsewhere would rise 
> significantly with better documentation.
> 
> 
> Stephen Goldberg, President 
> Medmaster Publishing Co., Inc.
> Professor Emeritus, Univ. of Miami Miller School of Medicine
> www.medmaster.net
> stgoldb...@aol.com
> 
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