I have but one thing to say about this argument. DOES ANYBODY ACTUALLY CARE??? Jacob Mansfield Programmer
On 13 October 2010 22:25, Will Bickerstaff <will.bickerst...@gmail.com>wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Rob Beard <r...@esdelle.co.uk> wrote: > > On 13/10/10 16:30, Roy Jamison wrote: > >> Do all of these machines have nVidia graphics cards? > >> Just a thought, but there's a known issue with the new Xorg 1.9 ABI that > >> breaks the older nVidia drivers, and I'm guessing the 6800 would be one > >> of them, hence the reason that Ubuntu *thinks* it is running ok. That > >> might also explain the fact that there is no X fallback coming up. > >> > >> Kernel modesetting commands anyone? > >> > >> I remember seeing something about a machine with SiS graphics...I had > >> trouble with them too :( > >> > >> > > > > With regards to video problems, on 10.10 (and IIRC 10.04 LTS) when you > > boot from the CD (or even USB stick) as soon as it comes up with the > > icon of a keyboard and a person in a circle press the Enter key. > > > > Then you can choose your language. > > > > Then press F6 and then ESC. > > > > A line will come up saying Boot Options with a command line after it. > > > > Press the backspace key a few times to remove the following: > > > > quiet splash -- > > > > then enter the following: > > > > xforcevesa -- > > > > The boot options line should now read: > > > > file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz > > xforcevesa -- > > > > Once you have made these changes, press enter to boot. > > > > You should see a load of boot messages scroll by and eventually with any > > luck a desktop should appear. > > > > If you get a blank screen, you should be able to press Control - Alt - > > F1 to get to a terminal. If you're plugged in to the network via a > > network cable with any luck you should be able to run the apport-bug > > command to create a bug report (in text mode it will still walk you > > through logging a bug). > > I must admit, it's been a long while since I've had to boot Ubuntu with > > VESA display drivers (which is essentially a safe mode video driver) so > > I was a bit surprised to see the option has been removed from the boot > > Anyone know the reason behind dropping it. It seemed to disappear in Hardy > > > menu. I believe the last machine I had to do it on had an Nvidia > > Geforce 6200 AGP graphics card. I can't remember what I did to get > > round it (I do remember it involved some head scratching and googling > > from another machine). > > > > Anyway I hope this is of some help to someone. > > > > Rob > > > > Isn't this what the OP was getting at. Why isn't this included as on > option, so when the desktop fails to load, which in my experience, is > far more common than is being indicated in this discussion, the user > can reboot and try the 'safe graphics mode' option doing exactly this. > > What you've just posted, may as well be written in Urdu, the user the > OP is describing would find this a ridiculously complicated method > just to get a usable desktop. What they need is a selection that > explains in plain English this is what you do if the normal method > doesn't produce a desktop. Why was the safe graphics mode option ever > removed? > > Maybe we should even get grub to create a 'safe graphics mode' entry, > that way if a user later experiences video issues they can at least > get to a desktop. > > Old nVidia hardware is an absolute nightmare in my experience, and > I'll be keeping clear of nVidia for a long time. I experienced bug > 220951 on a system which failed to start X. What to do then. Unusable > tty's and no X.... Screwed. A safe graphics mode in my boot menu would > have made life so much easier. I've learnt, and changed my grub conf > to always create one. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >
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