No one is addressing my point of the live CD. Al I dont doubt that once Ubuntu is working it may be less problem to maintain, and less problem to use, but if you have to edit files at the commandline to get there (read the answers to all the forum posts, this is required for a lot of solutions - I'm not imagining it) you cant do that on a live CD.
Paul, Is it not the live CD that is given out at events/public places trying to get to the masses. I'm taking about the live CD, not having installed it,had it working then the driver getting stuffed up. Cant repair Xorg on a live cd. I've run the live cd on 4 differnet PCs, 3 gave me no usable desktop, one did. I installed on the one that did and after the restart the installed copy didn't give me a usable desktop. John I agree some problems never get answers, but until it is accept there are problems they never will. Clearly the regulars on here (I have been following this list for a while) will defend Ubuntu to the hilt, but if you want its use to expand someone need to accept there is a problem. I agree people want something to work first time, but if it doesnt then it has to be easy to fix, they are not Linux experts like you. If you still are giving live CDs out to the public then your wasting your time, first impression mean so much, and a bad one can set bad opinions for a long time. I will probably get it to work on one of my PCs eventually when I can trawl the bug lists and forums for a solution, but my Win 7 on an Athlon XP2500+ and Nvidia 6800 that took less than an hour to setup is working it will have to wait for some free time, but I am certain the cost of the time taken to resolve it will exceed the cost of Win 7. All I wanted was to see Ubuntu 10.10 working on a PC. Mel -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/