David M wrote: > Alan Pope wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british > about: This list name/description > >> It's a minor thing really, but the name of this list is Ubuntu-UK and the >> descriptive text says "For organising Ubuntu stuff in the UK.", but the >> banner at the top (and the description in mails from the list) says "British >> Ubuntu Talk". >> >> I don't want to start a semantic argument but UK != GB. Can we get it >> harmonised one way or the other. I wouldn't want us to be annoying people >> for this minor issue. > > British is the adjective for UKian, for obvious reasons of > pronounceability. ;-) > > Yes, it's not properly inclusive, although a citizen of Northern Ireland > is "British" as far as offical records of nationality are concerned, even > if they may not see themselves to be so(!). > > To be honest, I would imagine that Northern Irish citizens who see > themselves as British/UK citizens would subscribe happily to this list, > whereas those who see themselves as Irish citizens under occupation > would subscribe to the Irish list (history has shown that, in many > cases, in order for the future to be to occur, you must first become > it), were it to exist, and some might subscribe to both (begs the > question: why hasn't a Republic of Ireland Ubuntu community seemed to > have come into existence?). > > > However, 'British' also has some negative jingoistic connotations for > non-English Britons (and possibly also for some English Britons who > don't wish to be associated with certain extreme nationalistic causes), > so it probably would be better to rename the list description to refer > to the UK, which is all-inclusive (in a geopolitical sense) and doesn't > raise issues of national identities (which will raise themselves in > other ways, see below..). > > Depending on the aims of the list, it may also be the case that lists > for each of the nations of the UK may also need to arise to reflect the > focus on lobbying the governments of *each* nation. The lack of a > government for England may result in the 'reserved to UK level' list > continuing to reflect the unbalanced real life situation and becoming a > de facto clearinghouse for English as well as UK-wide issues. This is of > course not the way I would prefer it, but I'm sure it's the way it will be! > >
I suggest English-Speaking-Europeans. (Ducks) R. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
