On 6 May 2010 01:49, Ryan Oram <r...@infinityos.net> wrote: > How many users actually use Bluetooth headsets with their computers or > mute their browsers? >
This one time in bandcamp when you fool around with a cool cellphone accessories > I feel that being able to play games without having to edit text files > or install alternate packages is much important to the average user > then the above features. > Generalisation..... I know plenty of people who play games and do not know how to edit *plain* text files. > Chances are people who want to use Bluetooth headsets and to mute > browsers will know how to configure Linux to do so anyways. > I don't know how to configure Linux to do that. I use the PA sliders. Thanks to avahi I was able to stream music to my kitchen without editing any textfiles. I would not be able to do this without PA. > Thanks, > Ryan Oram > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Dylan McCall <dylanmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Ryan Oram <r...@infinityos.net> wrote: >>> A great overview of the problems with PulseAudio: >>> http://www.webcitation.org/5kcZfOb4l >>> >>> It is 2 years old, but the facts in the article above are still >>> completely true. PulseAudio has made essentially zero progress in the >>> last 2 years, which is why it should be abandoned. >> >> I fail to see how diverging from upstream Gnome and switching audio >> systems AGAIN would solve any problems. As it is we have gained a lot >> from PulseAudio (eg: Bluetooth audio that we can actually expect end >> users to use), it is quite widely adopted and it is neatly integrated >> at this point. >> >> Now, granted, most things (gstreamer, canberra) are flexible and have >> (or could have) OSS4 support, but there is some significant energy >> required to swap these kinds of components. I think energy would be >> better spent sorting out the higher level APIs that application >> developers are actually meant to be using. We seem to have hundreds of >> these bouncing around, and they are all compatible with a different >> subset of audio frameworks. We can change underlying systems all we >> want, but those diagrams of the audio stack will still look awful >> because of all those libraries. >> >> You mention PulseAudio's high latency. I haven't followed this, but >> does anyone know what became of rtkit? Personally I've had an >> excellent audio experience in Lucid thus far (except for that funny >> issue with the balance slider and indicator-sound) and I believe rtkit >> has been merged into the kernel, but I could be mistaken about whether >> it's being used (or useful to begin with). >> >> Disclaimer: I'm also quite attached to positional event sounds :) >> >> >> Dylan >> > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss