Could a solution be to simply link to Debian/Ubuntu games team for packaging? It may have caused a tiny bit of confusion with the announcement, but i really don't foresee any other confusion. If it becomes a problem then it'll definitely be worth changing, but i don't think it will be.
thanks, .danny On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 08:40, Scott Kitterman <ubu...@kitterman.com> wrote: > First, apologies for the off topic cross-posting to many lists, but it was > really hard for me to tell which one to drop. > > > In recognition of the value of FOSS gaming, the Ubuntu Gaming Team has > > been > > formed of mutual benefit to Ubuntu and FOSS gaming. As of today, the team > > is > > now open for anyone to join and participate in. Working towards improving > > FOSS games and developing its community will turn a significant barrier > > against Ubuntu adoption into an appealing reason to switch. > > > > The Ubuntu Gaming Team will work to address the obstacles hindering > growth > > in FOSS gaming such as the need for effective distributed content > > management > > or significant investment in free content development in order to promote > > FOSS gaming through Ubuntu and Ubuntu through FOSS gaming. New ideas are > > encouraged and appreciated. > > I appreciate the enthusiasm, but with your choice of names is going to > cause problems. First, while an effort like you are describing might > benefit Ubuntu, it is not about doing anything within Ubuntu (the distro), > it seems to be about trying to leverage the Ubuntu community towards a > goal. > > As it happens, Ubuntu (the distro) already has a team that works with > Debian on packaging FOSS games for Debian and Ubuntu. This team is the > Debian Games team. Based on the first reply to your message, you've > already created a point of confusion. Ubuntu (the distro) doesn't need a > team to cooperate with the Debian games team as it is already a joint > Debian/Ubuntu team (this isn't the only case of this - another example is > the pkg-clamav team that works on packaging clamav and related packages). > > I would encourage you to reconsider your choice of names and select one > that isn't going to cause confusion. > > > FOSS gaming is important to Ubuntu as a lack of quality games is one of > > the > > most cited reasons preventing users from switching from Windows. Gamers, > > who > > currently feed off of the proprietary software model, represent a large > > and > > valuable user base. They will not even begin to gradually migrate to > > Ubuntu > > until their needs are met. They are very capable of understanding the > > ideological and technical benefits of using a free operating system like > > Ubuntu, and are often interested in switching, but higher value is placed > > on > > high quality gaming and the entire demographic will not budge until the > > pragmatic advantages of open source actualize through FOSS gaming. > > > > The team is dedicated to FOSS gaming, and will not push for commercial > > games > > on Linux as significant effort is already put into the development of > > Wine > > and pressuring video game publishers to port their work to Linux. Once > > FOSS > > gaming reaches its "tipping point", code and content will be easily > reused > > to foster the development of new games and innovative ideas in gaming. > The > > Ubuntu Gaming Team fills a great need for an organized effort to support > > FOSS gaming. > > http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/04/announcing-ubuntu-gaming-team.html > > I think you are using the name Ubuntu here is a way that is really > confusing. This isn't about Ubuntu gaming, it's about FOSS game > development. > > > Launchpad: > > https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming<https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-gaming> > > Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GamingTeam > > #ubuntu-gaming < > http://java.freenode.net//index.php?channel=ubuntu-gaming> > > > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > > Finally, you sent this to an Ubuntu development list. This list is to > discuss development of Ubuntu. Your announcement seems to be at most > about development ON Ubuntu, not development OF Ubuntu. I think it's off > topic. > > I would encourage you to consider your goal and brand your team more > appropriately to that goal. > > Scott K > >
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