This is really going nowhere... but felt like to reply something... my replies are inline (and not offensive to any one). I also find this thread is becoming stupid. The primary questions asked were very interesting and I believe Shahriar already took note to add them in some sort of FAQ.
I agree just because we are Linux fans, we don't have to go against M$. The historic holy war (!) did not start for no reason. Being one of the largest and biggest Open Source Unfriendly corporation M$ has been target of FOSS people. No matter how much we want to not to hate M$, it just turns into that. People (Even Linus Torvalds) welcomed when M$ apparently contributed (later found they were bound to because of using GPL licensed codes) codes to Linux Kernel few weeks back. Later one of their senior directors said: "Microsoft’s decision was not based on any perceived obligations tied to the GPLv2 license." The fact is they are obliged to contribute their codes under GPLv2 license. I guess it goes both way. If M$ becomes respectful to our work and contribution and stop blocking the freedom of people, we don't have any problem with M$ making money. In fact most of us are in Linux to make money in some way (Fact check). I don't get why people always *think* we promote Linux or Ubuntu- what we really promote is the Freedom; if you don't want your freedom, it is your choice. We are not to compete with windows or any commercially available software. We don't care about the number (how many people are using Windows and how many are using Linux is absurd comparison)- it is just good to see more free people. It is like comparing how many people knows of Nokia and how many people knows of Lucent Technologies (owns Bell laboratory- where the semiconductor transistor/modern world was invented). Linux was not meant to be built as consumer product whereas Windows is a consumer product. Regardless of how many users Windows got, most of the servers and super computers run on Linux variants. Users control Linux, where Windows is controlled by a big corporation. I agree with you, users are not blind; that is why they are moving towards the right direction. :) Cheers! --- On Tue, 8/25/09, maSnun <mas...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: maSnun <mas...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BD] General Questions about linux > To: "Ubuntu Bangladesh" <ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com> > Received: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 5:25 AM > 2009/8/24 Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor > <zombiegenera...@gmail.com> > > > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 23:23 +0700, Shabab Mustafa > wrote: > > > > > 3 cheers for Shiplu Bhai. (থ্রি > চিয়ার্সের বাংলা জানি > না, তাই ইংরেজিতে > > বললাম) > > > > > > > > > আমারো কিছু প্রশ্ন > আছে- > > > ২১। উইন্ডোজের দাম > এত বেশি কেন? > > > > It costs so high cause people is giving up using that > and MS needs money > > to pay it´s workers > > > Because you get professional real time support, not > community support. > To answer that I will tell my experience with Microsoft's technical (professional) support. In order to test a certain product of the company I work for, I needed a German version of Windows XP. I could not find it any where, then I called up Microsoft Tech Support. They 1) confirmed me there is no difference between installing language pack on English XP and German XP 2) failed to give any kind of information from where I can buy Windows XP German (as that was my first choice). Later when I contacted one of our engineers from Germany, he explained to me why 1) was UTTERLY wrong or lie. Then I had to borrow german xp cd from Germany (I live in Canada). Think about some one who does not have any support from other countries. Another time I had to call up Microsoft. This time we could not find any place where we can buy Windows 2000 and guess what they also failed to give any kind of information. On the other hand, my last experience with linux. I wanted to install Amarok on ubuntu 9.04, went to #amarok on freenode, and my problem was solved in 15 minutes also that guy made a post in his blogs using the instructions he gave me, so that he can refer to that in future. That is the power of community support. :) However, you can buy real time, professional support from Linux distros as well. (even for ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/support) > > > > > > > > ২২। উইন্ডোজের > জন্য আলাদা আলাদা > ডেক্সটপ এনভায়রনমেন্ট > নাই কেন? > > > > MS never thought that user might think about different > desktop > > enviornments > > > Do you honestly think that having multiple desktop > environments are more > user friendly? If I develop one application for windows, I > only need to care > about the default desktop environment. But in Linux ? I > have to consider > both KDE and Gnome. > I can't recall any application which runs only on KDE or Gnome. Both can be interchangeable. There are a lot of application which are not KDE or Gnome specific. > > > > > > > > ২৩। একটা ভাল থিম > ইন্সটল করতে চাইলে সেটা > পয়সা দিয়ে কেনা লাগে > কেন? > > > > To discourage you from using 3rd party themes > > > If someone creates a good theme for you with his hard work > and provides it > to you free of cost, you are absolutely free to install > that. Cost of themes > depend on theme makers, not the OS developers. > > I almost agree with what you have said. Let me tell you one of my small experience few years back. I wanted to convert a single wma file to mp3. I was looking all over the place for that. Then I found nothing over the net which is free (this is before I started to use Linux) and legal. Then I wrote my own application to do that in Java and it was fairly simple program to write. I surprised how come there is no one in this world ever thought of putting this very simple app for free. In Linux, most of the apps start from putting some small app, and then they are grown by other people (!). In Windows it is very difficult to find free and legal stuffs. This is fact. Even small dot net modules cost you money where most of the modules we use in C/C++, Java, PHP are free. > > > > > > > ২৪। উইন্ডোজ নিজে > অপারেটিং সিস্টেম > বানায় এবং সেই অপারেটিং > সিস্টেমের > > > নিরাপত্তার জন্য > নিজেই আবার অ্যান্টি > ভাইরাস বানায়। সেই > অ্যান্টি ভাইরাসও > > > আলাদাভাবে পয়সা > দিয়ে কেনা লাগে কেন? > > > > To show you that they are the ultimate boss. Even if > they make ¨shitty¨ > > OS people are bound to use that and to show you that > general windows > > users are ¨modon¨ > > > > People are not bound to use their OS. And I don't know why > you are calling > people "modon" without implementing logic. > > Being a Linux fanatic is not the best way to spread the > word about Linux. > You must remember that Windows users are still large in > number. And we > should convince them about the better qualities we have at > the Linux side. A > stupid sharp tongue would be of very less use in that > case. > > I haven't logged into my windows for a long time now and I > am a Linux fan. > But that doesn't allow me to insult windows users and we > should appreciate > what's good with Windows. Because, the users are not > blind. > > > I did not find anything insulting in the questions he asked. As some one suggested these would be general question for a Linux user who just moved to Windows. I agree, there is no point of discussing them in this mailing list. > > -- > Abu Ashraf Masnun > Grad Student, BBA, > Khulna University. > http://masnun.com > -- > Ubuntu Bangladesh | http://ubuntu-bd.org > ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd ----- tanjir visit http://www.tanjir.net __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. 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