Could this be mitigated with a detection addon in Tor Browser? Detect that the site may be blocked at the exit and offer to fetch a new circuit for the site?
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 19:22 Nathaniel Suchy <m...@lunorian.is> wrote: > The exit is behind a filtered ISP. Opposed to a website blocking exits. > That’s the difference. > > 1) The content provider causes the block. > 2) The exit causes the block. > > In situation two a censored user may give up on Tor entirely. Should we > allow exits in China or Iraq or Syria or Turkey or the several other > countries. What if their governments who can afford it spin up 10,000 exits > in an effort to censor the Tor Network. Will we sit idly by and allow it? > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pascal Terjan <pter...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A country's ISPs blocking some websites is not the exit blocking it and >> the result is the same than websites blocking the country, users of that >> exit can't access the websites just because the exit is in that country but >> doesn't do any filtering itself. >> >> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 16:14 Nathaniel Suchy, <m...@lunorian.is> wrote: >> >>> That’s a website blocking Tor users. Not a Tor Exit blocking a website. >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 7:06 PM Pascal Terjan <pter...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 14:11 Nathaniel Suchy, <m...@lunorian.is> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So this exit node is censored by Turkey. That means any site blocked >>>>> in Turkey is blocked on the exit. What about an exit node in China or >>>>> Syria >>>>> or Iraq? They censor, should exits there be allowed? I don't think they >>>>> should. Make them relay only, (and yes that means no Guard or HSDir flags >>>>> too) situation A could happen. The odds might not be in your favor. Don't >>>>> risk that! >>>>> >>>> >>>> Where do you put the limit? >>>> >>>> Various categories of websites are blocked in various countries either >>>> by ISPs or by content providers. >>>> >>>> For example should exits not be allowed to run in Germany due to >>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_YouTube_videos_in_Germany >>>> ? Or not allow exits in EU due to the number of US websites deciding to >>>> block all of EU IPs to not have to comply to GDPR? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> tor-relays mailing list >>>> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >>>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> tor-relays mailing list >>> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >> > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >
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