Hiya,

On 16/04/2025 02:53, Salz, Rich wrote:
I don’t know of any, especially since NIST has clarified/changed the
rules so that hybrid key agreement schemes AB are valid for FIPS if
either A or B is valid, and also if it’s BA.

Right, that kind of external tweaking/changing, as to what's ok or
not, causes wasted effort, so if we end up dealing with that for N
regulatory situations we may waste a lot of effort. For me, that
argues to not adopt things where the only justification is based on
those kinds of regulation. (As the ISE route is entirely viable.)

I’ve spoken to many of
our customers and internally explained things to product architects,
and nobody has raised any concern. Now of course, I don’t speak to
everyone, and Akamai has fewer customers than many of those involved
here; perhaps they can say something.

Suppose the payment card industry standards (PCI-DSS) says they want
all terminals to move to PQ, and in particular MLKEM. Would that
bother you?

Well, you know I'm easily bothered:-)

If "move to PQ" meant no hybrid stuff for TLS, I'd really wonder why.

Cheers,
S.


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