Hiya,

On 16/04/2025 00:02, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

I can see a case being made that this draft does improve the deployability of
TLS if we start with a baseline of draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and note that
that mechanism is not deployable in some environments (I guess, ones with some
kind of strict FIPS-only requirement, though I'm not conversant in the details
of such an environment).

A question (not necessarily for Ben): Are there any concrete/specific
environments that we know about that will need non-hybrid PQ KEMs for
reasons other than national regulatory reasons?

If so, I'd like to understand more about why and don't (or have
forgotten:-).

If not, then a) adoption of this draft really does require us to
figure out what we'll do when the next country's choices are
proposed, (which we've not) and b) I think does argue for pushing
this to the ISE rather than adopting.

Cheers,
S.

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