On 11/13/2024 6:06 PM, Peter Gutmann wrote:
Ben Smyth <resea...@bensmyth.com> writes:
Datagram TLS over UDP (Userdata Datagram Protocol) is losing to Quic[k UDP
Internet Connections]
QUIC is not an acronym, see RFC 9000.
You mean "Google is putting massive amounts of pressure on people to try and
make sure that DTLS loses to QUIC" (or as one dev put it, "QUIC doesn't
deliver but no-one will say so in public because of Google's ire", another one
mentioned "huge amounts of vitriol from Google when we tried to push back on
QUIC").
It is certainly not just Google. If you look at the work in the
transport area, you will see a lot of activity on TCP and on QUIC, and
very rarely hear about TLS. That chimes with David Benjamin's analysis
about the "whole mess of transport-related concerns that just don't
apply to TLS". The expertise for that is in the transport area, not in
the TLS WG.
-- Christian Huitema
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