Hubert Kario <hka...@redhat.com> writes:

>speaking of confusion, do you know that e-mail clients by "SSL" mean
>"SSL/TLS" and by "TLS" mean "STARTTLS"? (note the port numbers)
>https://sils.unc.edu/it-services/email-faq/outlook
>https://mail.aegee.org/smtp/kmail.html
>https://sils.unc.edu/it-services/my-computer/email-faq/thunderbird

Ugh, how very geeky, all the charm of fetchmail with a GUI bolted on.  The
fact that security geeks suck at UX isn't really proof of anything (other than
that you need to let interaction designers do your UX, not security people).

With Apple Mail, all you have to do is click on "Use Secure Sockets Layer" and
you're done (note the name).  With the Android mailer I use it's not even
that, it's autoconfigured, just point it at your email domain and give a
username and password.

Peter.
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