Hi, Le 12/12/2011 12:46, Mojca Miklavec a écrit : >> - There are (almost?) no (standard, non-utf8) hyphenation pattern files >> in the standard tree, even though I have texlive-hyph-utf8. > [...] >> From texlive-hyph-utf8's info I get the impression that the usual >> hyphenation patterns do not get installed at all any more, that is: >> everyone's supposed to use the prebuilt fmt files (or use a utf8 engine). > > The fact that there are only UTF-8 patterns in the tree doesn't mean > that you have to use an UTF-8 engine. Most patterns work just fine > with pdftex (of course sanskrit, ethiopic, indic patterns, lao, ... > won't, but that's a different story). > I didn't follow the beginning of the discussion, so sorry if I'm repeating something that was said earlier, but at this point I think it's worth mentioning explicitly that, in addition to utf-8 patterns, hyph-utf8 also contains wrappers that allow loading these files with 8-bit engines such as pdfTeX, by transcoding them on the fly at format generation time.
So the "usual" (standard, non-utf8) patterns are useless, since they have all been converted to a form (the modern utf-8 patterns with their loaders) that is usable by both Unicode and non-Unicode engines. I'm not sure if Fedora distributes pre-built .fmt files (upstream TeX Live certainly doesn't) but I can assure you that the file in hyph-utf8 (plus a few exceptions like the original Knuth patterns) are what is used to generate these .fmt files, even for pdfTeX. Manuel. _______________________________________________ TeXLive mailing list TeXLive@linux.cz http://www.linux.cz/mailman/listinfo/texlive