On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 08:38, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > There are two issues here: > > - The package description says "additional hyphen patters" which > everyone without packagers' knowledge will read as "installs additional > hyphen patterns".
I'm not sure if description comes from TeX Live or from Fedora. If a different description is needed for TeX Live packages, I can change that. > - There are (almost?) no (standard, non-utf8) hyphenation pattern files > in the standard tree, even though I have texlive-hyph-utf8. Do you want to say that there are almost no legacy patterns with those funny characters? That's pretty much intended. However the utf-8 patterns should be under tex/generic/hyph-utf8/patterns/tex for approximately 50 or 60 languages. > Note that I'm not complaining, but trying to make fedora's texlive > better for the average user. So there's no need to be in defensive mode. I wasn't. (I'm not even part of Fedora team and I have never even tried to use TeX Live from Fedora, to be honest.) > From texlive-hyph-utf8's info I get the impression that the usual > hyphenation patterns do not get installed at all any more, that is: > everyone's supposed to use the prebuilt fmt files (or use a utf8 engine). The fact that there are only UTF-8 patterns in the tree doesn't mean that you have to use an UTF-8 engine. Most patterns work just fine with pdftex (of course sanskrit, ethiopic, indic patterns, lao, ... won't, but that's a different story). > That's fine, but maybe the "zillion" (less than 60) packages which > merely activate a set of patterns in a prebuilt fmt would benefit from > an explanatory note. I leave that up to the Fedora people for Fedora packages. Maybe we should change descriptions in TL as well? But I'm not sure to what exactly. Mojca To Karl: discussion started by Michael questioning whether the fact that hyphenation packages are empty is ok or not (nobody expects empty packages/packages with no files). _______________________________________________ TeXLive mailing list TeXLive@linux.cz http://www.linux.cz/mailman/listinfo/texlive