Julie wrote (in reverse order):

> (proud vi user for 4 presidential administrations)

I've only been using it for about six years.  I really have to admit I came
to UNIX late in my career, and Linux even later.  I originally *hated* vi.
The learning curve was way steep and I found it counter-intuitive.  Once I
got used to it, though, many of the commands became second nature, and now
vi is definitely my editor of choice, simply because I know it so well.  I
also recommend that people *do* learn it because every *nix under the
sun has it.

>  Vim is the evil spawn of Satan.  It looks enough like vi to fool
> you into believing it's vi.  Then it does something completely
> weird and my brain overloads.

Would you care to elaborate?  I *think* what Linux-Mandrake give you is
vim, not vi.  Still, when I use it everything seems the same as on my *nix
boxen at work.

Also, this thread was originally about HTML editors, and I am still finding
it hard to believe people are recommending vi or even emacs as an HTML
editor.  To me a non-WYSIWYG HTML editor is something like HomeSite is for
Windows, where I have icons or menu items for common tools and tags, and so
long as I actually *know* what I'm doing and what tags to use I can
actually save some fiddly steps in the coding.  The really good ones have
CSS, PHP, and all sorts of esoteric support as well.  Neither vi nor emacs
is anywhere near fitting the bill for me.  Hence my recommendation of
Bluefish (my favorite), Quanta, SCREEM, or Webmaker.

All the best,
Caity

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