On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Alden, David
<al...@math.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> On Dec 14, 2010, at Dec 14, 10:18 AM, Yves Dorfsman wrote:
>
>> On 10-12-14 07:38 AM, John BORIS wrote:
>> If not, I am not sure how the following applies, but if you are, I think you
>> should keep smartphones into the equation, but don't look at prices from 
>> phone
>> companies, check the prices from manufacturers and from the companies in 
>> China
>> shipping directly. If you buy your phone out right, it is YOUR phone, and you
>> can use it on any GSM network, you just put the sim card in it and start 
>> using
>> it. You do not have to pay for a data plan if you don't want one.
>
> Have you tried this?  I have and AT&T "caught" me after about a month and 
> told me that they require dataplans on ALL smartphones - whether they were 
> purchased from AT&T or not (they told me that if I wanted to stop the 
> dataplan, they would block my usage of that phone).  They claim that all of 
> the cell phone companies now have that policy.  So far this has been true on 
> 2 iPhone 3's - however, they seem to allow me to use our older (non-3G) 
> iphone's without insisting on a dataplan.
>
> ...dave

You probably got caught because the iPhone specifically uses the data
plan all the time to check things like voicemail.  That's the main
reason (other than profit) why they started requiring data for them.
This may not apply to all smartphones.
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