I dunno, the project I'm working has no tables and all layout is done using CSS. They key was to have a an HTML/CSS guru design the templates from the beginning. No Java developer EVER modifies the css and rarely needs to modify the html beyond the usual (jwcid).
It's been a joy to work this way. Geoff On 2/17/06, Paul Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In theory, establish a clean content / presentation split between > HTML and CSS is a pleasing idea. > > In practice, it's a bunch of starry-eyed crack-smoking idealism. > > My $0.02. > > P > > > On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:16 PM, Chris Hughes wrote: > > > I agree with Gavin's sentiment that, in general, you want to do your > > presentation work in CSS. However, in order for that to be > > effective, you > > really need to have good mark-up to style. > > > > The edge that I think Tapestry has here is that it makes it easy > > for me to > > produce the mark-up, rather than relying on the knowledge/ > > experience/tastes > > of the JSF component developer. In order for me to have control > > over the > > mark-up in JSF, I have to write my own components - which seems > > unnecessarily complex for what should be a reasonably simple task. > > > > Chris > > > > PS - I'd also recommend the Javaposse podcasts, as they cover some > > good > > material. For those that have not listened, it's probably worth > > stating > > up-front that the presenters all met each other through developing/ > > using > > Sun's Creator product, so there does tend to be some leaning > > towards JSF... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raul Raja Martinez > > Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 2:35 PM > > To: tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org > > Subject: Gavin King's comment about presentation code and CSS in > > Javaposse > > podcast > > > > Hi, just recently listen Gavin King making a comment about JSF in the > > javaposse podcasts. He points out tapestry ability to separate html > > templates from component logic and definitions, but he also > > justifies that > > this shouldn't be an issue in jsf because all the design should be > > done in > > css. > > > > I personally disagree, since there are little things easier to do > > in the > > .html, but I thought it might be interesting for people to listen, the > > javaposse podcasts are very cool and they interview important > > people in the > > java community. > > > > http://javaposse.com/index.php?post_category=podcasts > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Piano music podcast: http://inthehands.com > Other interesting stuff: http://innig.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- The Spindle guy. http://spindle.sf.net Get help with Spindle: http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/spindle-user Blog: http://jroller.com/page/glongman Feature Updates: http://spindle.sf.net/updates --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
