I don't fully agree with you -

ofcause, in theory, everyone can write good html, even java programmers ;-)

but if you work with a web-designer, you can not split the work: I write the html and you do the styling with the css - they are coupled together - they don't relate to each other like xml and xsl, ( the xml can be arbitrary, but ofcause a good one, but the xsl will transform it to whatever) - the only one that can do that is the html designer -

my point is - when Gavin King says JSF-JSPs stand in no designer's way because he (the designer) does his work with the css - thats bulshit.

cheers,
Ron


Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote:
Is a matter of order and of knowing the technology we are working with. It's a myth that a good programmer can't be a good HTML coder (note that I say *coder*, not designer). Good separation of content / style is a programming issue, not a design one.

For me, bad HTML or CSS, given the current advances in browser adoption and web technology, is just laziness.



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