So If I where using JSF, I would have to:
Ask my designer to write a nice layout provinding a css that controls
everything and html that plays nice with the css and then I would have
to turn that html into JSF tags while I pray for the layout to not get
screwed.
Or I can teach my designer how to use a tool that builds JSF layouts
such as MyEclipseIDE, and tell him to forget about Dreamweaver or the
way he use to design because the new Sun Spec for JSF and Gavin King
thinks that either designers don't exists or they know enough about JSF
or all programmers are designers or everybody has a browser that fully
supports CSS.
I don't know what these people are thinking.
Mis 2 pesetas.
Geoff Longman wrote:
I dunno, the project I'm working has no tables and all layout is done
using CSS. They key was to have a an HTML/CSS guru design the
templates from the beginning. No Java developer EVER modifies the css
and rarely needs to modify the html beyond the usual (jwcid).
It's been a joy to work this way.
Geoff
On 2/17/06, Paul Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In theory, establish a clean content / presentation split between
HTML and CSS is a pleasing idea.
In practice, it's a bunch of starry-eyed crack-smoking idealism.
My $0.02.
P
On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:16 PM, Chris Hughes wrote:
I agree with Gavin's sentiment that, in general, you want to do your
presentation work in CSS. However, in order for that to be
effective, you
really need to have good mark-up to style.
The edge that I think Tapestry has here is that it makes it easy
for me to
produce the mark-up, rather than relying on the knowledge/
experience/tastes
of the JSF component developer. In order for me to have control
over the
mark-up in JSF, I have to write my own components - which seems
unnecessarily complex for what should be a reasonably simple task.
Chris
PS - I'd also recommend the Javaposse podcasts, as they cover some
good
material. For those that have not listened, it's probably worth
stating
up-front that the presenters all met each other through developing/
using
Sun's Creator product, so there does tend to be some leaning
towards JSF...
-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raul Raja Martinez
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 2:35 PM
To: tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Gavin King's comment about presentation code and CSS in
Javaposse
podcast
Hi, just recently listen Gavin King making a comment about JSF in the
javaposse podcasts. He points out tapestry ability to separate html
templates from component logic and definitions, but he also
justifies that
this shouldn't be an issue in jsf because all the design should be
done in
css.
I personally disagree, since there are little things easier to do
in the
.html, but I thought it might be interesting for people to listen, the
javaposse podcasts are very cool and they interview important
people in the
java community.
http://javaposse.com/index.php?post_category=podcasts
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