Hi Eleanor,

        That worked! Thank you so very much for your persistence!

        Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha 
Burke
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:56 PM
To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact

okay here goes.
One go to control panel.
2 go to settings.
three go to general.
for
go to personalisation.
five go to language.

six Eric down until you are here predictive text. in your case it should say 
on. I would imagine you would then press the select key to turn it off. The 
text predictive is the third one down in your list.
you should have success. do letters know. apologies for the few minor errors 
with my dictation.

> On 11 Aug 2015, at 02:12, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I thought that was the fn key, but no luck with that either. Also, I 
> tried to type a text message, but predictive text is on there as well. 
> Somehow, I'll have to find a way to turn it off.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor 
> Martha Burke
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM
> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
> 
> The FN key is on the bottom left.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 01:52, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eleanor and Stephen,
>> 
>>   On my E71, the key to the right of the number 6 is the pound key, or the 
>> number key. When I press that key twice, it puts 2 number signs on the 
>> screen, which Talks reads as "number number."
>> 
>>   I checked the Talks manual and it says to press fn plus Space, but I don't 
>> know which key is the fn key???
>> 
>>   Don
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:40 PM
>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>> 
>> okay we are both right in our respective ways. my apologies I was thinking 
>> of the numeric phone even though you had said before you have 71. there is a 
>> hash key on the E 71. it is to the right of the number six key. incidentally 
>> above that you have the Starkey and below it you have zero key. no I think 
>> you will have to turn predictive text off in a different manner through the 
>> menus but at the moment it is what we might call here in London the middle 
>> of the night and so I cannot tell you right now as I am dictating on a 
>> different phone which is a non-mentionable on this list. I am getting ready 
>> to go to Ireland in about eight hours time and I will try and get back to 
>> you at sometime in the morning. however Stephen might respond to you before 
>> then. I did ask you to write a text message because I wanted to establish 
>> from myself if you are actually on a predictive text or not but you did not 
>> do this. give it a go and let me know and then hopefully we can progress 
>> from here. I do have the E 71 so I will definitely look it out in the next 
>> couple of hours.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 01:07, Stephen Giggar <sgig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The E71 doesn't have an HASH key. It is a qwerty keyboard phone and not a 
>>> numeric keypad phone. I know you can do it through the settings but being I 
>>> don't own that phone can't tell you where to find it in the settings or 
>>> what key to press to be able to turn it off.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>> 
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:29 PM
>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>> 
>>> quickly press the hash key twice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 00:23, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>> 
>>>> How do I turn off predictive text???
>>>> 
>>>> Don
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Stephen Giggar
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:53 PM
>>>> To: 'Talks Mailing List' <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>> 
>>>> You probably should update to the 5.50 version of Talks for your phone. It 
>>>> is a free update for you. 
>>>> 
>>>> You need to turn off predictive text on your phone otherwise you will need 
>>>> to press space bar after typing a word to select the word before you can 
>>>> arrow down. This is why the arrow keys work after you initially type a 
>>>> word and pressing right arrow then you can probably press down arrow.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:46 AM
>>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>> 
>>>> Have you taken out y our battery and put it back in again?  Other thing is 
>>>> if you go to a text message and start writing it, does all that work fine?
>>>> 
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Don Moore" <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Eleanor and Stephen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, my version of Talks is 5.21.3
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in Canada.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:24 PM
>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>> 
>>>>> To get your version of Talks, press the Talks key followed by a 
>>>>> long press of soft key 1.  Once in the Talks programme, then press 
>>>>> soft key or option key as it is also called.  Then arrow up, yes I 
>>>>> said up, until you hear About and then select.  You will then get 
>>>>> the version of Talks you are currently running.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Don Moore" <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To answer your questions:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried turning off and on your phone to see if that 
>>>>>> clears things up?
>>>>>> Answer: Yes, that was the first thing I tried.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can you arrow to the different fields when you first open a new 
>>>>>> contact without entering anything to start with?
>>>>>> Answer: Yes, I can.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not recall what phone you said you had. What phone is it?
>>>>>> Answer: Nokia E71
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What version of Talks are you using?
>>>>>> Answer: I don't know how to determine this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did you try using your Left and Right arrows in place of using 
>>>>>> the Up/Down arrows?
>>>>>> Answer: Yes, I just tried it now and this is what happens: it 
>>>>>> moves the cursor horizontally and then I am able to use the down 
>>>>>> arrow to move to the next field.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Stephen Giggar
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:35 AM
>>>>>> To: 'Talks Mailing List' <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried turning off and on your phone to see if that 
>>>>>> clears things up.
>>>>>> Can you arrow to the different fields when you first open a new 
>>>>>> contact without entering anything to start with?
>>>>>> I do not recall what phone you said you had. What phone is it?
>>>>>> What version of Talks are you using?
>>>>>> Did you try using your Left and Right arrows in place of using 
>>>>>> the Up/Down arrows? Sounds like your screen may have gotten 
>>>>>> turned 90 degrees. In that case, the Up/Down will not work. This 
>>>>>> is easy to do with a slider phone.
>>>>>> Again closing and opening the phone should fix this. Nothing 
>>>>>> else, turning off and on the phone will also fix it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Changing the cursor type isn't going to change how Talks works 
>>>>>> when entering items into the contacts. Other settings comes down 
>>>>>> to how you want your phone to work. There isn't an correct and 
>>>>>> incorrect way. Just the way you want to use the phone and have 
>>>>>> things spoken when typing things. IE Spelling, Echo Characters, 
>>>>>> Words, both and or None. Comes down to what you want.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initially it sounds like the dictionary is working correctly 
>>>>>> based on your initial message. Remember when using 
>>>>>> T9(dictionary), you only need to press each number once. So if 
>>>>>> you wanted to enter Mike, you would press on a numeric keypad 
>>>>>> phone 6 4 5 3 and it may say Mike. If it says something different 
>>>>>> like Mile, then you would press the Star to cycle through all the 
>>>>>> enters of words that can be made up with those 4 key presses.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>>>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:57 AM
>>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> are you in the UK alternatively are you on Skype this way we 
>>>>>> could work on it together so that I could hear what is going on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 02:25, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Eleanor,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tried all your suggestions and still no luck! What is really 
>>>>>>> strange is that the dictionary seems to be part of the problem; 
>>>>>>> I don't recall this happening in the past.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would appreciate any help with this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 8:09 PM
>>>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Don, I don't have my Talks phone to hand but I can think of a 
>>>>>>> few things you need to check.  Now when I am writing on my Talks 
>>>>>>> phone, I like to set key echo and it can be set as follows, key 
>>>>>>> echo none, key echo words and key echo characters and words.
>>>>>>> This is done by pressing the talks key followed by the number 
>>>>>>> one on your key pad and cycling through those options.  Now 
>>>>>>> another thing is the spelling alphabet and I think you need to change 
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>> Again without the phone, I recommend you press Talks followed by 
>>>>>>> the number
>>>>>>> 3 on your keypad and go through the various settings by pressing 
>>>>>>> again Talks and the number 3.  Finally it also depends on how 
>>>>>>> your cursor is set, ensure it is not set to origional as this is 
>>>>>>> not the setting when inputting text.
>>>>>>> Checking cursor settings press Talks followed by the number 2 
>>>>>>> and again go through those settings Talks and number 2, I think 
>>>>>>> I recall  that there are about 3 different settings.  Not sure 
>>>>>>> if you have predictive text set but I don't recommend it for a beginner.
>>>>>>> Try out the above suggestions first and if they don't work then 
>>>>>>> press the hash or pound key twice quickly in succession and see 
>>>>>>> if that helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Don Moore" <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:56 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have entered several new contacts many times, but now I am 
>>>>>>>> having a
>>>>>>>> problem:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I opened my contacts list. Then, I pressed SoftKey 1 and 
>>>>>>>> cursored down to new contact and pressed Select. Then Talks 
>>>>>>>> said, "First name text, dictionary upper case." Then, I typed 
>>>>>>>> the first letter of Mike and it said, "Caps M." Then, I typed 
>>>>>>>> the letter I and it said, "Caps Mike." Then, I typed the letter k and 
>>>>>>>> it said, "Caps Mike" again.
>>>>>>>> Then, I typed the letter e and it said, "Caps Mike" again. 
>>>>>>>> After all of that, I couldn't cursor down to the field for the last 
>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I must have pressed something by mistake that has changed my 
>>>>>>>> settings to get all of this happening.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can anyone help???
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>> 
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