no problem just keep the questions coming. while I have moved on to touch 
screen phones, I would never be without my no Kia talks phone. it was thanks to 
talks that I began using a mobile phone for emails texts and Internet et cetera 
et cetera.



> On 12 Aug 2015, at 03:55, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> 
> Eleanor, you are right. Thank you Stephen as well!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha 
> Burke
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:37 AM
> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
> 
> excellent.I think it was really a joint effort between Stephen and myself and 
> it was Stephen from the start and realised that it was the predictive text 
> problem where as I was going a different route!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 12:53, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eleanor,
>> 
>>   That worked! Thank you so very much for your persistence!
>> 
>>   Don
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor 
>> Martha Burke
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:56 PM
>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>> 
>> okay here goes.
>> One go to control panel.
>> 2 go to settings.
>> three go to general.
>> for
>> go to personalisation.
>> five go to language.
>> 
>> six Eric down until you are here predictive text. in your case it should say 
>> on. I would imagine you would then press the select key to turn it off. The 
>> text predictive is the third one down in your list.
>> you should have success. do letters know. apologies for the few minor errors 
>> with my dictation.
>> 
>>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 02:12, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I thought that was the fn key, but no luck with that either. Also, I 
>>> tried to type a text message, but predictive text is on there as well. 
>>> Somehow, I'll have to find a way to turn it off.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM
>>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>> 
>>> The FN key is on the bottom left.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 01:52, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Eleanor and Stephen,
>>>> 
>>>> On my E71, the key to the right of the number 6 is the pound key, or the 
>>>> number key. When I press that key twice, it puts 2 number signs on the 
>>>> screen, which Talks reads as "number number."
>>>> 
>>>> I checked the Talks manual and it says to press fn plus Space, but I don't 
>>>> know which key is the fn key???
>>>> 
>>>> Don
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:40 PM
>>>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>> 
>>>> okay we are both right in our respective ways. my apologies I was thinking 
>>>> of the numeric phone even though you had said before you have 71. there is 
>>>> a hash key on the E 71. it is to the right of the number six key. 
>>>> incidentally above that you have the Starkey and below it you have zero 
>>>> key. no I think you will have to turn predictive text off in a different 
>>>> manner through the menus but at the moment it is what we might call here 
>>>> in London the middle of the night and so I cannot tell you right now as I 
>>>> am dictating on a different phone which is a non-mentionable on this list. 
>>>> I am getting ready to go to Ireland in about eight hours time and I will 
>>>> try and get back to you at sometime in the morning. however Stephen might 
>>>> respond to you before then. I did ask you to write a text message because 
>>>> I wanted to establish from myself if you are actually on a predictive text 
>>>> or not but you did not do this. give it a go and let me know and then 
>>>> hopefully we can progress from here. I do have the E 71 so I will 
>>>> definitely look it out in the next couple of hours.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 01:07, Stephen Giggar <sgig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The E71 doesn't have an HASH key. It is a qwerty keyboard phone and not a 
>>>>> numeric keypad phone. I know you can do it through the settings but being 
>>>>> I don't own that phone can't tell you where to find it in the settings or 
>>>>> what key to press to be able to turn it off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:29 PM
>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>> 
>>>>> quickly press the hash key twice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Aug 2015, at 00:23, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do I turn off predictive text???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Stephen Giggar
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:53 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Talks Mailing List' <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You probably should update to the 5.50 version of Talks for your phone. 
>>>>>> It is a free update for you. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You need to turn off predictive text on your phone otherwise you will 
>>>>>> need to press space bar after typing a word to select the word before 
>>>>>> you can arrow down. This is why the arrow keys work after you initially 
>>>>>> type a word and pressing right arrow then you can probably press down 
>>>>>> arrow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>>>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:46 AM
>>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you taken out y our battery and put it back in again?  Other thing 
>>>>>> is if you go to a text message and start writing it, does all that work 
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Don Moore" <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:34 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Eleanor and Stephen,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, my version of Talks is 5.21.3
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I live in Canada.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:24 PM
>>>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To get your version of Talks, press the Talks key followed by a 
>>>>>>> long press of soft key 1.  Once in the Talks programme, then 
>>>>>>> press soft key or option key as it is also called.  Then arrow 
>>>>>>> up, yes I said up, until you hear About and then select.  You 
>>>>>>> will then get the version of Talks you are currently running.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Don Moore" <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:42 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To answer your questions:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you tried turning off and on your phone to see if that 
>>>>>>>> clears things up?
>>>>>>>> Answer: Yes, that was the first thing I tried.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can you arrow to the different fields when you first open a new 
>>>>>>>> contact without entering anything to start with?
>>>>>>>> Answer: Yes, I can.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I do not recall what phone you said you had. What phone is it?
>>>>>>>> Answer: Nokia E71
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What version of Talks are you using?
>>>>>>>> Answer: I don't know how to determine this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Did you try using your Left and Right arrows in place of using 
>>>>>>>> the Up/Down arrows?
>>>>>>>> Answer: Yes, I just tried it now and this is what happens: it 
>>>>>>>> moves the cursor horizontally and then I am able to use the down 
>>>>>>>> arrow to move to the next field.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>> Stephen Giggar
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:35 AM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Talks Mailing List' <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you tried turning off and on your phone to see if that 
>>>>>>>> clears things up.
>>>>>>>> Can you arrow to the different fields when you first open a new 
>>>>>>>> contact without entering anything to start with?
>>>>>>>> I do not recall what phone you said you had. What phone is it?
>>>>>>>> What version of Talks are you using?
>>>>>>>> Did you try using your Left and Right arrows in place of using 
>>>>>>>> the Up/Down arrows? Sounds like your screen may have gotten 
>>>>>>>> turned 90 degrees. In that case, the Up/Down will not work. This 
>>>>>>>> is easy to do with a slider phone.
>>>>>>>> Again closing and opening the phone should fix this. Nothing 
>>>>>>>> else, turning off and on the phone will also fix it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Changing the cursor type isn't going to change how Talks works 
>>>>>>>> when entering items into the contacts. Other settings comes down 
>>>>>>>> to how you want your phone to work. There isn't an correct and 
>>>>>>>> incorrect way. Just the way you want to use the phone and have 
>>>>>>>> things spoken when typing things. IE Spelling, Echo Characters, 
>>>>>>>> Words, both and or None. Comes down to what you want.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Initially it sounds like the dictionary is working correctly 
>>>>>>>> based on your initial message. Remember when using 
>>>>>>>> T9(dictionary), you only need to press each number once. So if 
>>>>>>>> you wanted to enter Mike, you would press on a numeric keypad 
>>>>>>>> phone 6 4 5 3 and it may say Mike. If it says something 
>>>>>>>> different like Mile, then you would press the Star to cycle 
>>>>>>>> through all the enters of words that can be made up with those 4 key 
>>>>>>>> presses.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>>>>>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:57 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> are you in the UK alternatively are you on Skype this way we 
>>>>>>>> could work on it together so that I could hear what is going on.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 02:25, Don Moore <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Eleanor,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tried all your suggestions and still no luck! What is really 
>>>>>>>>> strange is that the dictionary seems to be part of the problem; 
>>>>>>>>> I don't recall this happening in the past.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would appreciate any help with this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Talks [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 8:09 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Don, I don't have my Talks phone to hand but I can think of 
>>>>>>>>> a few things you need to check.  Now when I am writing on my 
>>>>>>>>> Talks phone, I like to set key echo and it can be set as 
>>>>>>>>> follows, key echo none, key echo words and key echo characters and 
>>>>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>>>> This is done by pressing the talks key followed by the number 
>>>>>>>>> one on your key pad and cycling through those options.  Now 
>>>>>>>>> another thing is the spelling alphabet and I think you need to change 
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> Again without the phone, I recommend you press Talks followed 
>>>>>>>>> by the number
>>>>>>>>> 3 on your keypad and go through the various settings by 
>>>>>>>>> pressing again Talks and the number 3.  Finally it also depends 
>>>>>>>>> on how your cursor is set, ensure it is not set to origional as 
>>>>>>>>> this is not the setting when inputting text.
>>>>>>>>> Checking cursor settings press Talks followed by the number 2 
>>>>>>>>> and again go through those settings Talks and number 2, I think 
>>>>>>>>> I recall  that there are about 3 different settings.  Not sure 
>>>>>>>>> if you have predictive text set but I don't recommend it for a 
>>>>>>>>> beginner.
>>>>>>>>> Try out the above suggestions first and if they don't work then 
>>>>>>>>> press the hash or pound key twice quickly in succession and see 
>>>>>>>>> if that helps.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Don Moore" <donmo...@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>>>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:56 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Talks] Problem entering new contact
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have entered several new contacts many times, but now I am 
>>>>>>>>>> having a
>>>>>>>>>> problem:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I opened my contacts list. Then, I pressed SoftKey 1 and 
>>>>>>>>>> cursored down to new contact and pressed Select. Then Talks 
>>>>>>>>>> said, "First name text, dictionary upper case." Then, I typed 
>>>>>>>>>> the first letter of Mike and it said, "Caps M." Then, I typed 
>>>>>>>>>> the letter I and it said, "Caps Mike." Then, I typed the letter k 
>>>>>>>>>> and it said, "Caps Mike" again.
>>>>>>>>>> Then, I typed the letter e and it said, "Caps Mike" again. 
>>>>>>>>>> After all of that, I couldn't cursor down to the field for the last 
>>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I must have pressed something by mistake that has changed my 
>>>>>>>>>> settings to get all of this happening.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone help???
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>> 
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