I know. I said the only upgrade they charged for was to version 4. Perhaps I 
should have been clearer and said from 3 to anything higher.

Fi (on Nokia N79)

--- original message ---
From: "Bardia Zakeri" <bardiazak...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Talks] FW:  A plug
Date: 14th March 2011
Time: 7:07:05 pm


Hi! i had both skreen redares  in my phone with lisense . talks 5.20 and
mobile speak 3.82
i  cant have 4  because  my lisense is only to  3 versioners .
if i want 4 .6  i  must upgrade the lisense and i s cost.
i had  all thinks in  e 66
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fi Dunn" <f...@fidunn.plus.com>
To: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <for...@talknav.com>; "Talks Mailing List"
<talks@talksusers.com>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] FW: A plug


> Niel, why say Mobile Speak users don't get free upgrades? They have only
> ever charged for one upgrade so far, to version 4. I already know from
> Caroline that upgrading to version 5 will be free.
>
> I'm not saying Code Factory will never charge for an upgrade ever again,
> but, surely, now that you sell Mobile Speak as well as Talks, and if
> dealer support is a justification for the Talks transfer fee, shouldn't
> the info you give on both be accurate? That way customers will know all
> the facts before deciding which to go for.
>
> I like to have both screen readers available to me, so I'm not having a go
> about the fee. It's still more affordable than the sim-based license for
> this girl with a handbag full of Nokias. LOL!
>
> Fi (on Nokia E5)
>
>
> -----------------------------
> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav"
> Subject: Re: [Talks] FW: A plug
> Date: 14th March 2011 4:42 pm
>
>
> in that instance then your MS license became better value for money half
> way through your second transfer of phones. not bad, but equally still not
> amazing.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
> Talks List Administrator
>
> Twitter @NeilBarnfather
>
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>
> On 14 Mar 2011, at 16:19, Saqib wrote:
>
> Hi Neil. I've changed handsets 3 times.
> Original message:
>> you also though paid for for that license then you would a Talks one, yes
>> not as much as now when you look at the 3 upgrades you've had. but have
>> you changed phones three times or not. as if not, then those three
>> upgrades would also likely have been free with talks. thus in that
>> instance you're actually out of pocket still by the difference of MS Gold
>> verse Talks Premium.
>
>> even if you'd changed phones once, Talks was still cheaper, and only tips
>> over that when you buy your second phone, and even then only by half the
>> transfer fee.
>
>
>
>
>> Regards,
>
>> Neil Barnfather
>> Talks List Administrator
>
>> Twitter @NeilBarnfather
>
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>
>> On 13 Mar 2011, at 20:11, Saqib wrote:
>
>> Hi Neil. Not trying to throw a spanner in the works here but since I
>> aquired MS4 I've had 3 updates for free now. The license policy has saved
>> me 3 transfer fees due to the phone number licensing policy.  Each screen
>> reader company has their own business model and I've also benefitted from
>> Talks upgrades as I've purchased 11 transfers up until now.
>> Original message:
>>> Kit,
>
>>> and if they did that they up their initial purchase price, please think
>>> before you say such things. MS is not £150, its £80 more for the same
>>> thing.
>
>>> now yes this is only £80, but you do not get any upgrades with that, you
>>> have to pay for those, and you do with Talks, and each time you buy a
>>> new phone and a transfers of Talks, you keep on getting the latest
>>> version.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> Regards,
>
>>> Neil Barnfather
>>> Talks List Administrator
>
>>> Twitter @NeilBarnfather
>
>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>
>>> On 12 Mar 2011, at 22:26, Kit wrote:
>
>>> I strongly feel that Nuance Talks should start with license base on
>>> mobile number as what MS have done.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: John Farley
>>> To: talks@talksusers.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:30 AM
>>> Subject: [Talks] FW: A plug
>
>
>>> Hi Chris,
>
>>> I have no problem paying the £150 for the Talks licence itself. I fully
>>> understand the level of resource required by the developers in producing
>>> and
>>> marketing the product. It is good value in a very small marketplace. Of
>>> course, that does not take away the fact the blind people have to pay
>>> this
>>> extra cost for something everybody else does not need to. That is not a
>>> fault of the development companies, who have to make a living. I guess
>>> that
>>> could be viewed as a DLA issue.
>
>>> Equally, when there is a significant upgrade to Talks I have no problem
>>> with
>>> paying for an upgraded licence.
>
>>> I do, however, find the £50 for a licence transfer an issue.
>
>>> We have already paid for a licence to use Talks.
>>> The transfer of the licence from one phone to another is required to
>>> avoid,
>>> or at least limit, piracy of their software, which is fully
>>> understandable .
>
>>> Talknav do provide a simple and easy means of transferring the licence.
>
>>> It is done without human intervention, in most cases, and its real
>>> on-going
>>> cost to Talknav and Nuance is minimal. The development of the Ap to do
>>> that
>>> should not have been a complex task in these days of tools to assist in
>>> "shopping" utilities.
>
>>> I really think that the price of the transfer should bear some
>>> relationship
>>> to the cost of it. After all, we are only paying for the privilege of
>>> moving
>>> a licence we have already paid for to another phone, which we have also
>>> paid
>>> for by one means or another.
>
>>> I really do believe that in the fully automated world we live in that
>>> this
>>> fee should be reduced.
>>> Clearly, I do not know if the level of the fee is set by Nuance or the
>>> dealership network.
>
>
>
>
>>> Regards, John
>
>>> John Farley
>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of chris hallsworth
>>> Sent: 12 March 2011 17:44
>>> To: Talks Mailing List
>>> Subject: [Talks] A plug
>
>>> Hello all.
>>> Just had an e-mail privately from someone offering 50% off my next Talks
>>> license. No thanks, I will get it from www.talknav.com. I don't mind
>>> paying
>>> the £50 but I do mind being involved in what could be a scam. So please
>>> do
>>> the same guys. Not knocking anybody here but you just never know. There
>>> are
>>> dodgy people in this world who will do anything with your money. So go
>>> for
>>> the real deal please. Use www.talknav.com and you will get your license
>>> within minutes, 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year.
>>> Take care.
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