Niel, why say Mobile Speak users don't get free upgrades? They have only ever charged for one upgrade so far, to version 4. I already know from Caroline that upgrading to version 5 will be free.
I'm not saying Code Factory will never charge for an upgrade ever again, but, surely, now that you sell Mobile Speak as well as Talks, and if dealer support is a justification for the Talks transfer fee, shouldn't the info you give on both be accurate? That way customers will know all the facts before deciding which to go for. I like to have both screen readers available to me, so I'm not having a go about the fee. It's still more affordable than the sim-based license for this girl with a handbag full of Nokias. LOL! Fi (on Nokia E5) ----------------------------- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" Subject: Re: [Talks] FW: A plug Date: 14th March 2011 4:42 pm in that instance then your MS license became better value for money half way through your second transfer of phones. not bad, but equally still not amazing. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @NeilBarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 14 Mar 2011, at 16:19, Saqib wrote: Hi Neil. I've changed handsets 3 times. Original message: > you also though paid for for that license then you would a Talks one, yes not > as much as now when you look at the 3 upgrades you've had. but have you > changed phones three times or not. as if not, then those three upgrades would > also likely have been free with talks. thus in that instance you're actually > out of pocket still by the difference of MS Gold verse Talks Premium. > even if you'd changed phones once, Talks was still cheaper, and only tips > over that when you buy your second phone, and even then only by half the > transfer fee. > Regards, > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @NeilBarnfather > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > On 13 Mar 2011, at 20:11, Saqib wrote: > Hi Neil. Not trying to throw a spanner in the works here but since I aquired > MS4 I've had 3 updates for free now. The license policy has saved me 3 > transfer fees due to the phone number licensing policy. Each screen reader > company has their own business model and I've also benefitted from Talks > upgrades as I've purchased 11 transfers up until now. > Original message: >> Kit, >> and if they did that they up their initial purchase price, please think >> before you say such things. MS is not £150, its £80 more for the same thing. >> now yes this is only £80, but you do not get any upgrades with that, you >> have to pay for those, and you do with Talks, and each time you buy a new >> phone and a transfers of Talks, you keep on getting the latest version. >> Regards, >> Neil Barnfather >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @NeilBarnfather >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> On 12 Mar 2011, at 22:26, Kit wrote: >> I strongly feel that Nuance Talks should start with license base on mobile >> number as what MS have done. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Farley >> To: talks@talksusers.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:30 AM >> Subject: [Talks] FW: A plug >> Hi Chris, >> I have no problem paying the £150 for the Talks licence itself. I fully >> understand the level of resource required by the developers in producing and >> marketing the product. It is good value in a very small marketplace. Of >> course, that does not take away the fact the blind people have to pay this >> extra cost for something everybody else does not need to. That is not a >> fault of the development companies, who have to make a living. I guess that >> could be viewed as a DLA issue. >> Equally, when there is a significant upgrade to Talks I have no problem with >> paying for an upgraded licence. >> I do, however, find the £50 for a licence transfer an issue. >> We have already paid for a licence to use Talks. >> The transfer of the licence from one phone to another is required to avoid, >> or at least limit, piracy of their software, which is fully understandable . >> Talknav do provide a simple and easy means of transferring the licence. >> It is done without human intervention, in most cases, and its real on-going >> cost to Talknav and Nuance is minimal. The development of the Ap to do that >> should not have been a complex task in these days of tools to assist in >> "shopping" utilities. >> I really think that the price of the transfer should bear some relationship >> to the cost of it. After all, we are only paying for the privilege of moving >> a licence we have already paid for to another phone, which we have also paid >> for by one means or another. >> I really do believe that in the fully automated world we live in that this >> fee should be reduced. >> Clearly, I do not know if the level of the fee is set by Nuance or the >> dealership network. >> Regards, John >> John Farley >> Personal Contact Work contact >> E-Mail: j.far...@btinternet.com john.far...@saic.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On >> Behalf Of chris hallsworth >> Sent: 12 March 2011 17:44 >> To: Talks Mailing List >> Subject: [Talks] A plug >> Hello all. >> Just had an e-mail privately from someone offering 50% off my next Talks >> license. No thanks, I will get it from www.talknav.com. I don't mind paying >> the £50 but I do mind being involved in what could be a scam. So please do >> the same guys. Not knocking anybody here but you just never know. There are >> dodgy people in this world who will do anything with your money. So go for >> the real deal please. Use www.talknav.com and you will get your license >> within minutes, 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. >> Take care. >> -- >> Chris Hallsworth >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. >> http://www.talknav.net/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. 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