Folks, Does it mean I'll hear Microsoft Sam, and Microsoft Marry announcing my contacts and menus in my future phone? I seriously don't like it!.
Thanks Syed On 2/12/11, Stephen Giggar <sgig...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is no Symbian 40 at all. That doesn't exist. When a phone says S40 > this means Series 40 and not Symbian 40. They are not the same. So there is > no Symbian 40 at all. The Series 40 or S40 is Nokia's own internal stuff and > has nothing at all to do with Symbian. > > No S40 is not the leading selling then on the market. > > Signed: Stephen Giggar > Skype: dr-phone. > > Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. > No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia and Microsoft form partnership > > >> Martain i never saw anything that said synbion v40 was gonna be the main >> >> os. all i saw was that another 150 million phones would be sold. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "martin wilsher" <martinwils...@btinternet.com> >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia and Microsoft form partnership >> >> >>>I hope I am wrong, but I read Symbian 40 was the dominant system, not >>>sixty. >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Stephen Giggar >>> Sent: 12 February 2011 12:22 >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia and Microsoft form partnership >>> >>> No you are wrong! Symbian is going to be around for years to come! They >>> plan >>> on selling another 150 million Symbian phones! Does that sound like they >>> are >>> going to discontinue Symbian? Not to me. >>> >>> Signed: Stephen Giggar >>> Skype: dr-phone. >>> >>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. >>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "martin wilsher" <martinwils...@btinternet.com> >>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 4:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia and Microsoft form partnership >>> >>> >>>> I've heard they are scaling back Symbian development. This could mean >>>> the >>>> end of talks support, unless windows 7 gets accessibility, which doesn't >>>> look promising. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings >>>> Sent: 12 February 2011 02:30 >>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia and Microsoft form partnership >>>> >>>> >>>> Confusing as recently as nokia just handed the .ovi services to another >>>> company and it was not Microsoft. In order to continue to use your >>>> nokia >>>> /ovi accounts for maps chat free email and so on we had to accept >>>> conditions >>>> and pricing policies recently. A few month ago we had to accept some >>>> conditions so our ovi accounts could be switched to the new partner. >>>> Both of these came by email from nokia. I was amazed that partnership >>>> was >>>> not mentioned as they are going to provide all of nokia's web services. >>>> >>>> Bernard Hemmings >>>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >>>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >>>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >>>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >>>> Home: 61-02-95841280 >>>> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Edward" <solid.r...@comcast.net> >>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <talks@talksusers.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:06 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia and Microsoft form partnership >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nokia's decision to form a marketing alliance with Microsoft is >>>>> interesting, >>>>> and has some potential ramafications for Talks users like myself. >>>>> Nokia's >>>>> CEO, a former vice-president at Microsoft brings truth just a little >>>>> closer. >>>>> Please read the following. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/02/nokia-adopts-windows-phone-7-as- >>>>> primary-platform.ars >>>>> Capitulation: Nokia adopts Windows Phone 7 >>>>> By >>>>> Ryan Paul >>>>> | Last updated >>>>> February 11, 2011 9:35 AM >>>>> >>>>> In a joint briefing made at Nokia's Capital Markets Day event, >>>>> Microsoft >>>>> and >>>>> Nokia >>>>> announced a partnership to collaborate on mobile technology. Nokia has >>>>> adopted Windows >>>>> Phone 7 as its primary mobile phone platform and it will also embrace >>>>> Microsoft's >>>>> Web services stack, including the Bing search engine. >>>>> The partnership creates some uncertainty about Nokia's existing >>>>> platform >>>>> efforts, >>>>> including the Linux-based MeeGo operating system that Nokia co-develops >>>>> in >>>>> collaboration >>>>> with Intel and other vendors. Nokia has confirmed that it will continue >>>>> selling its >>>>> current lineup of Symbian devices and that it has at least one MeeGo >>>>> device >>>>> planned >>>>> for launch this year. >>>>> Symbian will soon be phased out entirely, however, and MeeGo will be >>>>> relegated to >>>>> an open source experiment with significantly reduced development >>>>> resources. >>>>> Nokia's >>>>> excellent Qt development toolkit, which was once the unifying >>>>> centerpiece >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> company's platform strategy, will not be coming to Windows Phone 7. Qt >>>>> will >>>>> continue >>>>> to be supported in a limited capacity as the primary development >>>>> toolkit >>>>> for >>>>> Symbian >>>>> and as part of the MeeGo stack. >>>>> Nokia and Microsoft contend that their union will bring together the >>>>> strengths of >>>>> Nokia's hardware expertise and Microsoft's software and service >>>>> ecosystem. >>>>> It's not, >>>>> however, entirely clear if this is going to be beneficial for both >>>>> parties. >>>>> This >>>>> deal gets Nokia a modern platform that is roughly competitive and ready >>>>> to >>>>> ship on >>>>> devices today, but the biggest downside is that it guts the company's >>>>> software autonomy. >>>>> Adoption of Windows Phone 7 is fundamentally an act of capitulation by >>>>> Nokia-an acknowledgement >>>>> that the company is incapable of building its own ecosystem or >>>>> innovating >>>>> above the >>>>> hardware layer. >>>>> The transition will be difficult and costly. Nokia has virtually no >>>>> internal >>>>> development >>>>> expertise on Microsoft's platform and will have to start from scratch >>>>> as >>>>> it >>>>> works >>>>> to adopt the operating system. Though promising, Windows Phone 7 is >>>>> still >>>>> nascent >>>>> and doesn't have strong consumer or developer mindshare yet. >>>>> Nokia has thrown its existing developer community under the bus and >>>>> will >>>>> likely not >>>>> be able to keep them interested in participating in the brave new world >>>>> of >>>>> Windows >>>>> Phone 7 devices. We are already seeing Nokia third-party developers >>>>> talking >>>>> about >>>>> moving to Android in response to today's announcement. On the other >>>>> hand, >>>>> Nokia's >>>>> commitment to bringing Windows Phone 7 to the world might motivate some >>>>> of >>>>> the C# >>>>> developers who are coding on Windows (a very large potential audience) >>>>> to >>>>> start looking >>>>> seriously at getting into mobile. >>>>> Diminished ambitions >>>>> Nokia CEO Stephen Elop says that 2011 and 2012 will be "transitional" >>>>> years >>>>> for the >>>>> company. He declined to announce when Nokia will ship its first Windows >>>>> Phone 7 device, >>>>> but he intends to pull the company forward towards that milestone at a >>>>> rapid >>>>> pace. >>>>>>From Microsoft's side of the table, the deal looks a lot more >>>>>>beneficial. >>>>> Adoption >>>>> by the largest hardware vendor could help validate Windows Phone 7 and >>>>> make >>>>> it a >>>>> stronger contender. On the other hand, it could scare away Microsoft's >>>>> other >>>>> partners. >>>>> Microsoft is giving Nokia more control over the platform's future and >>>>> possibly providing >>>>> other exclusive privileges. This could make the operating system look >>>>> less >>>>> appealing >>>>> to HTC and others, driving them to build tighter relationships with >>>>> Google. >>>>> Microsoft >>>>> danced around this issue during the press briefing. >>>>> It's not clear if Microsoft's brand is strong enough in Europe or if >>>>> Nokia's >>>>> brand >>>>> is strong enough in the United States to make their combined product >>>>> particularly >>>>> desirable in either market. Addressing that question, Elop emphasized >>>>> that >>>>> he has >>>>> already discussed the partnership with European carriers and has found >>>>> them >>>>> to be >>>>> receptive and enthusiastic about the partnership. >>>>> Whether this deal can save Nokia is a question that's difficult to >>>>> answer, >>>>> but it's >>>>> clear that the company's ambitions have diminished. Adopting >>>>> Microsoft's >>>>> platform >>>>> puts Nokia in the unenviable position of being dependent on Microsoft >>>>> and >>>>> the success >>>>> of Microsoft's fledgling mobile platform. >>>>> In light of the challenges that both companies have faced in recent >>>>> years >>>>> in >>>>> their >>>>> respective efforts to deliver a credible mobile solution, both will >>>>> face >>>>> an >>>>> uphill >>>>> battle as they struggle to compete with Apple and Google. It's a gamble >>>>> for >>>>> both >>>>> Microsoft and Nokia, but if they can get the formula right, they could >>>>> jointly form >>>>> a formidable mobile juggernaut. >>>>> >>>>> Edward >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Talks mailing list >>>>> Talks@talksusers.com >>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>>> >>>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>>> and >>>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talks mailing list >>>> Talks@talksusers.com >>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>> >>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>> and >>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talks mailing list >>>> Talks@talksusers.com >>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>>> >>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>> and >>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talks mailing list >>> Talks@talksusers.com >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talks mailing list >>> Talks@talksusers.com >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >>> >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>> and >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talks mailing list >> Talks@talksusers.com >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks >> >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >> and >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > -- -.-.-.-Faint heart never won fair lady_._._._._ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
