Sorry I wrote a lot of gibberish on a smartphone screen in the sun ...and
an entire piece of text was not sent..

a) Even if other mappers confirm that house numbers within buildings and
not on the location of the house number sign, are OK, I need to point out
that this is in contradiction with the first sentence of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Addresses#Come_inserire_gli_indirizzi_2,
(quoted in the import wiki page) which explicitly says:
"Dato che il numero civico contraddistingue un accesso esterno che immette
alle unità immobiliari, *le informazioni sugli indirizzi possono essere
aggiunte solo come semplice nodo in corrispondenza dell'accesso esterno o,
in alternativa, a un nodo di ingresso di un edificio o sito. NON bisogna
aggiungere le informazioni di indirizzo a edifici, siti o altre tipologie
di aree.*"

b) I still want to understand what were the criteria for the coordinates of
the house number points in the data set. They look as if they were set by
hand inside the polygons in the OSM data.
I presume there is a description of the method of the data set creation
somewhere, but have not found it.

(apologies for my communication quality)

Volker



On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 at 16:21, Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ... to see of the recently imported house numbers where on the false Bing
> posiond or on the much better Esti imagery positions. They were on the Esti
> positions, but they were all inside the building polygons, differently from
> what I had seen in the Padova data set That triggered my reaction.
>
>
> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, 11:31 Volker Schmidt, <vosc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> (continues)
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, 11:30 Volker Schmidt, <vosc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am not and import guy, I am  detecting things on the ground. I had
>>> used the Padova h
>>> House Number data from the Veneto Data portal tò check building
>>> positions in Padova, and had done also some work on Road grometry (caused
>>> by users aligning data with Bing data) along the Toblach-Cortona-Cadore
>>> cycle Route. When I read the announcement of House Number Import, i
>>> spot-checked the Data in Borca di Cadore (where I remembered that the Bing
>>> Satellite imagery was way off
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, 09:51 Martin Koppenhoefer, <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sent from a phone
>>>>
>>>> > On 5 Oct 2024, at 21:38, Premislav via Talk-it <
>>>> talk-it@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > As far as I saw this can be different in Italy. Sometimes the address
>>>> is placed on the gate(usually in cases where there is a fence fencing off
>>>> the real estate), but also on the door of the building (usually in case
>>>> where the door is accessible directly from the street.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this is because the rule is not different: they are assigned to the
>>>> points between public space (street) and internal space (garden, building,
>>>> etc.)
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